TNS Krishna@Parivadhini On Dec 03rd,2016

sankark · Post by **sankark** » 03 Dec 2016, 17:46

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpSHK77izSM

joined when he started vAtApi ganapatim (s, cracker), pantuvarALi kaivaNNam angu kandEn kAlvaNNam kambar's verse ns@maivaNNathu arakki pOril mazhai vaNNathu aNNalE un

rough translation of the nereval lyrics - oh you of the cloudy hue [mazhai vaNNathu aNNalE Un], saw your dexterity [kaivaNNam angu kandEn] while you were battling the dark hued demon [maivaNNathu arakki pOril, tAtakai?]

sankark · Post by **sankark** » 03 Dec 2016, 18:05

rItigowLai brief AlApanai, janani ninnuvinA

sankark · Post by **sankark** » 03 Dec 2016, 18:19

shlOkam krishnAya vAsudEvaya, gAnamUrtE

sankark · Post by **sankark** » 03 Dec 2016, 18:44

shanmukapriyA vocal only bhavasAgaram kaRaiyERalAm ns@bhakti paNNippAdi (few rounds of swarams wrapping sadA nI padamAga bakthi paNNippAdi)
http://periscope-narada.blogspot.in/201 ... ralam.html
thOdi

sankark · Post by **sankark** » 03 Dec 2016, 19:55

kaddanuvAriki, ns@baddutapaka tani

sankark · Post by **sankark** » 03 Dec 2016, 20:27

ikana tAlajAla http://www.indian-heritage.org/lyrics/hmb106.html kuntalavarALish/bahudArish rAgam
ranjani

sankark · Post by **sankark** » 03 Dec 2016, 20:38

sri so next sriranjani?

sankark · Post by **sankark** » 03 Dec 2016, 21:18

sumanEsaranjani RTP "sumana rasikE srI rAja mAtangi sumanEsaranjani" k triputai (2 kalai)
vasantha sketch kandEn kandEn kandEn sItaiyai
kApi sketch engaL kaNNammA nagai pudhu rOjAppU rAgamAlikai ? ? surati bhArtiyAr http://sahityam.net/wiki/Engal_kannamma
virutham on vinAyakan followed by thillAnA thomthruthAni tadharatAni (nritta ganapatiyE ... sankaradAsan?)
mangaLam (pavamAna)

Wow. Appreciations and astonishment for the 5 of them to have sat on the floor for 4 hours 20 mins continuously.

MV · Post by MV » 04 Dec 2016, 07:03

Blessed with his father's voice and a fair share of that 'old magic' TNS Krishna was in fine form yesterday. With the tag of a '4-hour' concert, it had the feel of a relaxed Sunday morning with no deadlines to meet. Accompanied by Lalgudi Vijayalakshmi, R Ramesh and G Guruprsanna plus a willing audience of more than 50% house, it was a happy place to be.

Starting with Kanada Ata Varnam, a lovely Pantuvarali alapana by vocal and violin led to Kai Vannam Angu Kanden. The next rendez-vous was with Shanmukhapriya 'Bhava Sagaram' by GKB which led to some amazing KS in 'Bhakthi Panni Padi' Thodi main was breathtaking. Kaddanuvariki with a 15 minute Thani brought us into 3.15 hours of the concert. A 45 minute exploration of Ranjani, Sri and Madhuvanti in ragam and thanam ate up the allocated 4 hours. I regretfully had to go out into real world after that and miss the pallavi and thukkada section.

The fillers, if you like were Ganamoorthe, Janani in Reetigowla, Ikane Thala (Guharanjani). LV ofcourse had all the answers to the many conundrums that TNSK threw up in the course of the evening and then she had a few of her own. Inspite of the many calculations presented, the whole concert was definitely in the realm of aesthetics.

When this concert pops up in Youtube, it is well worth a listen on a 'relaxed Sunday morning with no deadlines to meet'

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 04 Dec 2016, 07:28

SankaradAsa and harikESadAsa are mudras of Sri T. N. Seshagopalan.

parivadini · Post by **parivadini** » 04 Dec 2016, 10:10

Dear MV - it was indeed a great concert and fitting finale for our series. The third raga in the RTP was Sumanesaranjani (Madhukauns).

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 04 Dec 2016, 13:53

TNS Krishna@parivAdhini on Dec 03rd,2016
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Vocal : TNS Krishna
Violin : Lalgudi Vijayalakshmi
Mrudangam : R Ramesh - disciple of Karaikudi Mani
Kanjira : Guruprasanna - disciple of Vyasavittala, who is the disciple of G Harishankar

Concert Type : Nirvana - No concert to follow , Free concet
Day/Duration : Saturday / 4 hours and 45 minutes (advertised as 4 hour concert)
sabha/Hall : Parivadhini ,Ragasudha hall
Time : 5 to 9:45pm

1A. slokham - veenAnjana ... chaya mArthAnda - kANadA- ??
1B. varnam -nera nammiti (S) - kAnadA - Poochi
4 mins swaras
2. vAthApi ganapathim (Ragasketch,S) - hamsadhwani - MD
swaras for 11 mins

3. kai vannam angu kanden kAl vannam(R N S) - pantuvarAli -kambar verses (is that ramayanam) - tuned by mahavidwan TNS
6 mins alapana and 4 mins violin return
6 mins neraval in mazhai vannathu annalE
11 mins swaras

4. janani ninnuvina (R) - reetigowlai - Subbaraya sastri
2 mins alapana with no violin return

5A. slokham - krishnAya vasudevAya devaki nandana - gAnamurthi - ???
5B. gAnamoorthE- gAnamoorthi - T

6. bhava sAgaram (R N S)- shanmughapriya -GKB
2 mins alapana and no violin return
3 mins neraval in bhakthi pannil pAdi balakrishnan POTri
6 mins swaras

7A. kaddanuvAriki (R N S T) - tOdi - T
14 mins alapana and ?? violin return(forgot to note violin return)
11 mins neraval in baddu tappaka bhajiyincE bhakta pAlanamu
14 mins swaras
7B. 34 mins tani

8. ikanE taaLajaalanuraa - guharanjani - HMB

9A. RTP - Ranjani + shree ragam + sumanesa ranjani for 1 hour 8 mins
Raagam for 29 mins
taanam(non metered) for 12 mins
pallavi line was sumana rasikE sumanesa ranjani shree rAjamAthangi
13 mins neraval in pallavi line
16 mins swaras in all 3 ragas
9B. mini tani for 3 mins

10. kanden kanden kanden seethaiyai - vasanta -AK
11. engal kannammA nagai pudhu rOjAppu - ragamaliga (kapi??+ sarasAngi (not saraswati)+ Amruthavarshini + shurutti) - mahakavi bharathiyAr

12A. slokham - ucchi meeethu OMkAra gaNapathiyai - basant - ???
12B. tomtru thani... gaNapathi sapta suropathi??? - basant -TNS

13. At last ........nee nAma rooopamulaku

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 04 Dec 2016, 13:54

Carnatic Music has always "time oriented aesthetic muse" which are naturally negated by "structural constraints with reduced time". The time oriented aesthetic muse is having atleast 4 cores- submain, main ,RTP, tani and all other wanted /unwanted vitamin supplements in and around it - whatever you do you roughly need anywhere between 2 to 3 hours time to get atleast the core . If it is reduced significantly then CM is no different from what comes from idiot box "please please Donot Go away ,Do return after the break".

The "structural constraints with reduced time" is certainly taken care when the concert is announced any where from 3 and 1/2 hours to 4 hours . If the tani is for 34 minutes in the advertised time, as a rasika who is not trained in mrudangam one gets a feeling ayyO this is not a 4 hour concert.

But if TNS Krishna gets into an intense musical mode and makes up the loss of structural constraints with a gain of aesthetic music by he himself rightfully overshooting by another 45 minutes and if karanakaratha - my dear friend Lalitharam of parivadini gives the space by not even giving any signs of closure (As they say in tamil proverb - SAmiyE varam kudduthAlum poosari varam kudukkarthu), it is just joy. The day started with me standing in line for 2 and half hours in two banks to withdraw money and the day ended with 4 hours and 45 minutes to firmly be seated in the muse from kAnadA to basant.

Mahavidwan TN Seshagopalan -Lalgudi Jayaraman-kAraikudi Mani have given so many trio concerts . I am assuming in atleast one of them the 4th addition would have been G Harishankar . I was either a toddler or a teenage and I have certainly not seen LGJ -TNS together in a live concert. They are all old 500 Rupee and old 1000 rupee notes era . THe next gen artists of TNSK - Lalgudi Viji- R Ramesh and Guruprasanna (second gen disciple of Harishankar thru vyasavittal) - the new 2000 Rs note era - took me to a certain circa of CM which I was not part of . Or may be I am even wondering if the older era then even had this much time .

TNS Krishna has some thing special, he takes an opportunity to present as many slokhams and viruthams for as many numbers .The first in KAnadA was intense in carnatic idioms, but I wish he repeated atleast once more and he segued to a lovely poochi varnam in kAnadA . Great swaras in a true TNS fashion greeted me very well . The next vAthapi - an usual casualty krithi which is not taken due to time paucity was wonderful. TNS krishna with copious rounds of hamsadhwani swaras did give a great start . However in both KAnadA and hamsadhwani the volume of Ramesh mrudangam completely drowned VIji's violin. It was bit frustrating to not to hear the violin muse at all .

The valiant Lalitharam knows the value of relative sound , his attempt to reduce the mrudangam took the whole hamsadhwani and the sound engineer sekhar replaced the microphone of violin that indeed added the missing violin muse.

The next pantuvarali is a very aggressive raga that too to check the revised sound setting . I think i have heard this Tns Tuned kambar krithi in mudhra many years back when TNS sang it , certainly a nice one but certainly not as enjoyable as any of the drops of other popular pantuvarAli krithis.In neraval i guess more than one line was taken for the neraval and it was not a rollicking pantuvarAli . However in swarakalpana ,Krishna used the symmetry and his voice was really in full throttle and i enjoyed it .

Perhaps there was a little high dose of sound and his choice of slow moving plead of ambAl in the janani ninnuvina was perfect . The reetigowlai alapana was just a sketch and considering the krithi being long , TNSK showed early signs that he is not interested in any OB adhichufying - he is not latching with the violin longish return-personally to me that is very important .

Another lovely slokham drop of a pristine gAnamoorthi ragam indicated that the usual krithi would come and TNSK continued to be in full form. A full throttle shanmughapriya alapana without violin return and a bhava sagaram was well done . I think i have heard this bhava sagaram from only Raji gopalakrishnan in a live concert .i love this GKB krithi and for a change with gopalakrishna bharathi words i am able to get attracted with his sAhithya anubhuvam (I hope i am not lying here).

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 04 Dec 2016, 13:55

Shanmughapriya and TOdi is a strict NO NO to almost all artists for all concerts because of its overlap . I was surprised but with few sparkling brighas in Todi alapana and with a very unsurprising detour to mohanakalyani , I liked TNSK for one thing , he asserted that he wants to present wholesome music in its grandest candour which is lost to unwarranted package fluff .TOdi glowed more in most part of swaras , i got bit away from music as I did not fully concentrate

What a joy it was to hear a spectacular pallavi . My friend lalitharam says it was sung by TNS in vanimahal and may be some one wrote this review . The joy of ranjani alapana followed with Shree Ragam which i mistook for madhyamavati for few phrases and then that extraordinary muse of super ahA OHo raga sumanesa ranjani , what a triple sundae it was . The taanam was non metered and I was glad it was that way ,otherwise there could have been an overload of mrudangam excess strike . HIs pallavi neraval was one of a kind . The sumana rasikE sumanesa ranjani was the purvangam and shree rAjamAthangi was uttarangam . Phrases were dissected for each of the three ragas , the phrases were rolled to give each raga, TNSK was giving run for money for even his appa mahAvidwan Tirumalai Nambi Seshagopalan. Interestingly I got a bit of muse of TRS in Ranjani and SKR in Sumanesa ranjani and let us not forget mahavidwan TNS took a lot from mahavidwans TRS and SKR.The swaras were also great but i would have enjoyed bit more if there had been a bit more longer stay in each raga.Anyways Fanta fabulous pallavi especially in selection of 3 aesthetically great ragas of different contrast - i was not in a mood to these pracheena ragas like todi for pallavi

Vidwan TNS follows Ariyakudi intensely and it was a great choice to bring a arunachala kaviyar drop . History reminds us that Ariyakudi tuned and dropped most of arunachala kavirayAr. I am not a big fan of the next bharathiyar song, i guess possiby the little overload of kambar and bharathiyar which is more in words than muse . But nevertheless few pockets like amruthavarshini in that bharathiyar drop gave me joy.

The last basant tillana was requested by some one who stayed till end . The preceding viruththam on ganesha showcased the roar of TNS-TNSK school and the basant thillana showcased the TNS musical ideas in a concise way.

Lalgudi Vijayalakshmi was near perfect . She keeps rAga bhavam centric approach and I particularly liked her smile and more importantly a gentle pass and giving the baton back to TNSK especially in pallavi . Her raga orientations were clean and with TNSK voice being a bit high , the sedate- raga bhavam approach added enough oomph.

R Ramesh was hit and miss to me. Certainly high volume and at times the right was just too much of a HIT but not a hit. But however when he gets into the zone with more continous play you can hear the joy of karaikudi mani.

It is very difficult to hear a bangalore based kanjira artist in a chennai concert . Thanks to overload of decemeber season . Guruprasanna from bangalore had a great roll and in tani I liked his clarity which was more brilliant than the mrudangam artist . Perhaps he could have bit underplayed the kanjira that too considering the relatively high sound of R Ramesh till Main krithi.

IF there are two things that could get better with TNSK
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1 There is a certain bit of athattal in swara kalpana . At times the really high powered voice that pierces my ear is a sharp pointed curve . That can perhaps be smoothened like a madurai mani sinusoidal curve. I am assuming he can work on that and will just come as he moves on.

2. When TNSK sings At times may be there is an accumulation of saliva or may be sangathis come from corners of his mouth . IN all those sporadic times the sangathi enunciaton slightly gets erred . I guess this may turn out to be a long term issue of TNSK music.

All said , TNSK has wonderful ideas ,a roaring voice and most importantly the commitment to sing long . TNS krishna is surely on a rAja mArgham highway to become a mahAvidwan Tirumalai Nambi Seshagopalan.

Overall an excellent to outstanding concert for 4 hours and 45 minutes .

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 04 Dec 2016, 15:37

MV wrote:Kaddanuvariki with a 15 minute Thani brought us into 3.15 hours of the concert.

Malathi
Do you have special kiwi ears that only hears kanjira and mutes during mrudangam. The tani was much longer , it was close to 35 min , I guess you missed the last 45 minutes which was certainly lovely but I am glad you stayed till 4 hours. I am assuming after rithwik Raja Auckland this must have been your next marathon concert. Welcome to the occasional and rare Mile Oh Pour- Malathi.

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 04 Dec 2016, 15:42

Our musically intense lalitharam says vidwan TNS and LGJ paired for the first time in SKGS and TNS sang kadannuvAriki as main. This is something he knew after he interviewed TNS. INcidentally Lalgudi VIji is also pairing for the first time with TNS Krishna and it is the same coincidence of KadannuvAriki . None of the artists knew and only when gamakam alias ramachandran alias lalitharam(I am still in the mood of threes after hearing ranjani , shree and sumanesaranjani) clarified they knew.

parivadini · Post by **parivadini** » 04 Dec 2016, 17:32

Rajesh: In 'engal kanamma' the second raga is Sarasangi and what a sarasangi that is! Had he continued for another ten mins I would have missed my bus to Bangalore and I must confess I will happily miss the bus for such an ecstatic experience

MV · Post by MV » 04 Dec 2016, 21:56

rajeshnat wrote: Malathi
Do you have special kiwi ears that only hears kanjira and mutes during mrudangam. The tani was much longer , it was close to 35 min , I guess you missed the last 45 minutes which was certainly lovely but I am glad you stayed till 4 hours. I am assuming after rithwik Raja Auckland this must have been your next marathon concert. Welcome to the occasional and rare Mile Oh Pour- Malathi.

Hello Rajesh, Didn't get a chance to talk to you yesterday. Yes must have lost a bit of the Thani in space

I remember checking time at 8.15 and thinking it would either be a super short Pallavi or none at all.Anyway, I'm not making much Notes this year. So thanks to the mods for merging my thread here and for a full list.

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 05 Dec 2016, 10:02

rshankar wrote:SankaradAsa and harikESadAsa are mudras of Sri T. N. Seshagopalan.

Ravi,
IIRC ,I have not heard any krithi that TNS composed with the mudra harikEsadAsa - may be there is one , if you or others can squeeze your memory let me know the krithis of TNS with harikesadAsa mudra.

In any case only Ramnad sankarasivam should have the mudra of HarikesadAsa - Can TNS who is second gen disciple have that mudra?

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 05 Dec 2016, 11:02

Lakshmanji can post the lyrics of Sri TNS' tillAnAs - you'll see both the mudras.

shankarank · Post by **shankarank** » 06 Dec 2016, 23:56

HarikESa dAsa is a term that happens in a HMB kriti also - for instance caraNam Vijaya sarasvati.. harikESa dAsa alankari

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 07 Dec 2016, 01:19

Rajesh - here is the caraNa sAhityam from Sri TNS' niroshTha tillAnA:

C: kandA untAzh enakkaruL sukhalayAnandA sendil nAthA guruguhA vand-
enaiyAL vikasita vadana vinOda rAga jnAna harikEsa dAsa nuta

Vocalist · Post by **Vocalist** » 10 Dec 2016, 11:24

rajeshnat wrote: 11. engal kannammA nagai pudhu rOjAppu - ragamaliga (kapi??+ sarasAngi (not saraswati)+ Amruthavarshini + shurutti) - mahakavi bharathiyAr

Rajesh, TNS school sing this in five ragas - first three of which are Kapi, Sarasangi, and Saraswathi. He sang it in all five ragas in this concert also.

shankar vaidyanathan · Post by **shankar vaidyanathan** » 18 Dec 2016, 06:32

I watched this extraordinary concert on YT. TNSK's stamina and staying power reminded me of Rahul Dravid in his prime! LV was fantastic!!

The Kambaramayanam verses in Panthuvarali were sung almost similar to his dad. I know that's not a fair comparison but when I think of that raga, TNS's rendition with NC Madhav and Harikumar sets the bar. I have heard TNS rendition in an AIR recording through Sangeethapriya. So, I was next expecting a Reethigowlai (Ninnodum Aruvaranom) as TNS had done in that concert. Reethigowlai came but it was a magical and melodious Janani Ninnuvina. It was so well delivered that it felt his dad's legacy is safe and sound. The Shanmukapriya, Thodi were all delivered to an outstanding class.

Blessed were the souls who were listening live to this concert. Y'all will some day share the story with your grandkids!

The younger Vidwans had been hitting it out of the park this season. My personal thanks and sincere appreciation to Lalitha Ram and Team Parivadini in identifying Vidwans of superlative talent.

sundar_nadathur · Post by **sundar_nadathur** » 18 Dec 2016, 09:11

sankark wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpSHK77izSM

joined when he started vAtApi ganapatim (s, cracker), pantuvarALi kaivaNNam angu kandEn kAlvaNNam kambar's verse ns@maivaNNathu arakki pOril mazhai vaNNathu aNNalE un

rough translation of the nereval lyrics - oh you of the cloudy hue [mazhai vaNNathu aNNalE Un], saw your dexterity [kaivaNNam angu kandEn] while you were battling the dark hued demon [maivaNNathu arakki pOril, tAtakai?]

It is a reference to tATakai indeed. A typically beautiful creation of Kamban, where he uses the word 'vannam' in a different way in each line. The poem refers to the Ahalya Vimochanam episode, after which Vishwamitra tells Rama, "I saw the prowess of your hands in the battle with the dark tATaka, and here I have seen the prowess of your feet."

I still have the cassette (!) where TNS has rendered the Kamba Ramayanam. Can't play it any more but it is truly a keepsake.

shankar vaidyanathan · Post by **shankar vaidyanathan** » 18 Dec 2016, 20:03

Kamban's poetic brilliance and language mastery is self evident at how the same blackish color is used to describe a demon (Mai vaNNathu arakki = Thadakai) and a deity (Mazhai vaNNuthu annal = Raman)! I recall Sukhi Sivam delivered an appreciation of these lines in a Jamba Ramayanam discourse. What can I say, Tamil is a great language, as all great languages are, in lending itself to such poetic exploration! In the following Kamban verses, the word "VaNNam" means all of (color; thus; so; mastery;...)

மை வண்ணத்தரக்கி போரில்
மழை வண்ணத்தண்ணலே உன்
கை வண்ணம் அங்கு கண்டேன்
கால் வண்ணம் இங்கு கண்டேன்

இவ்வண்ணம் நிகழ்ந்த வண்ணம்
இனி இந்த உலகுக்கெல்லாம்
உய் வண்ணம் அன்றி மற்றோர்
உயர்வண்ணம் உண்டோ?

Mai VaNNatharakki Poril
Mazhai VaNNathannale Un
Kai VaNNam Anghu Kanden
Kal VaNNam Inghu Kanden

IvvaNNam Nigazhndha VaNNam
Ini Indha Ulagukkellam
Uy VaNNam Andri Matror
Uyar VaNNam Undo?

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