Meaning of raaga name "Arabhi"

sheshadripv · Post by **sheshadripv** » 31 May 2007, 04:32

Does any one tell me the actual meaning of the raaga "Arabhi". Is it a sankrit word like other raaga names?

Thanks,

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 31 May 2007, 10:36

I would imagine it is a geographical derivation similar to Kambhoji, Saurashtram etc. although the scales themselves can't be traced to their implied origin....

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 31 May 2007, 23:15

AFAIK, the name Arabhi does not relate to any geographical region. Definitely not related to Arabia

The rAga is fairly recent - Not seen in works more than 400 years old I think.

-Ramakriya

uday_shankar · Post by **uday_shankar** » 01 Jun 2007, 00:58

I agree with Ramakriya. Arabhi is no more Arabian than kAnada is Canadian

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kartik · Post by **kartik** » 01 Jun 2007, 13:49

Is Kamboji Cambodian?I thought I read about this somewhere...

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 01 Jun 2007, 15:24

Kambhoji, IIRC was also the name of a province in northwest India. Hmm....so Arabhi is not from Arabia - I always think of sheiks and camels when I hear the raga!

uday_shankar · Post by **uday_shankar** » 01 Jun 2007, 15:47

Vijay, you're right about Kamboja being in NW India, i.e., Pakistan of course

. Additionally Cambodia is also known as Kamboja and some scholars have mistakenly associated Kamboji raga with Cambodia. You know ho chi min ?

. Of course, other scholars have rightly associated Kamboji with the Kamboja of the NW.

Somebody has written exhaustively on this subject in wikipedia. Check it out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kambhoji

Come to think of it, kAnada immediately evokes images of ice hockey...isn't kAnada associated with krOda and raudra ?

vageyakara · Post by **vageyakara** » 01 Jun 2007, 16:58

Hallo everyone,
It is quite interesting to note that how a Ragam like Aarabhi could create a virtual stir in the minds of rasikas. There are ever so many instances of this kind.Even KAPILAARANYAM, HAS BECOME CALIFORNIA AND there is a raagam by name KAPILA-(A janya of 12th MeLam) Roopavathy.!!! A composition of mine is available at website http//www.karnatik.com/c3509.shtml--(: !!!!!)
Jugglary of words can pave way for any number of Ragas to ideally suit the tastes of an aspiring individual for christening the name of a raaga !!!!
Ramaraj

hsuvarna · Post by **hsuvarna** » 01 Jun 2007, 23:23

Kambhoja desam is either vietnam or cambodia. I read somewhere (don't remember) that this country has nothing todo with raga kambhoji. Per whatever I read, it originated from the himalayas region.

I am not aware of any meaning for aarabhi though. Thought about surabhi, but
could not imagine any meaning. carnatica has a very good newsletter on aarabhi.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 01 Jun 2007, 23:27

The above wikipedia link says:

"For example, after Shadaj swara, originated the name of the Raga called shadaji; after Arishabh swara originated the name of Aasharbhi Raga; and after Gandhari swara was named the Gaandhari Raga"...

Just a wild thought whether Aasharbhi has something to do with Arabhi.. Stretch indeed.

Since Sanksrit words all have meanings, what are the derived meanings of Arabhi and Kambhoji?

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 02 Jun 2007, 00:32

aa rAsabhOtbhava sakaara lObAt aarabhiH

(arose from the donkey (braying

with the loss of the sibilant (sa)

Just listen to the flight of the notes into the tAra region
http://www.sendspace.com/file/oif3vn

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 02 Jun 2007, 00:56

CML,

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 02 Jun 2007, 03:08

CML,
Funny!

Vk,
It definitely isnt the spring cuckoo:)

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 02 Jun 2007, 04:07

kssuresh · Post by **kssuresh** » 02 Jun 2007, 22:22

hsuvarna wrote:Kambhoja desam is either vietnam or cambodia. I read somewhere (don't remember) that this country has nothing todo with raga kambhoji. Per whatever I read, it originated from the himalayas region.

Angkor Wot and its Shiva temples of the Chola vintage and the legend that it was the Lord's favourite raga (remember RAvana's singing kambhoji in response to his wife's query as to which raga he sang to claim Lord Shiva's favour, in the tamil film Sampoorna Raamayanam?) would make Cambodia a strong contender. I am not sure if there is a legend to support NW's claim. (Of course I am yet to read the wikipidea piece.)

Sundara Rajan · Post by **Sundara Rajan** » 03 Jun 2007, 09:13

In the context of Kambhoji, I would like to draw attention to late Kanchi Mahaswami's discussion with Ariyakudi Ramanuja Iyengar regarding "Sri SubrahmanyAya namastE" in kambhoji raga, wherein he also disputed Cambodia(Kambhoja) as the name origin of the raga, since the raga name preceded Tamil occupation of kambhoja, and opined that it could be from the North west region of India. I am not aware of his source. This discussion has been referred to in this site and in Sangeetham.com site many times.

grsastrigal · Post by **grsastrigal** » 04 Jun 2007, 14:13

Sundara Rajan is correct. There was a discussion on Kedaram,Gowla, Sourashtram, Navarasa Kannada, Sindhu Bhairavi and Yamuna kalyani also apart form Kambhoji by Maha Periaval to Ariyakkudi. He contends Kedaram is from Kedarnath and Gowla is from Gowda Region-Bengal.

He finished saying "May be the names came from musicians who "specialised" in these rgas and came from these Regions".

His insigt is beyond imagination !!!!!

Off this topic- In Srimath Bhagavtham- Mahabali conducted big Yagnam in which Vamana demanded a 3 "adi" Nilam...We know the story. But the beauty is he conducted the yagam in the place "Bruga Kaccham".
This place is now called Baruch(ch) which is in between Mumbai and Ahmedabad. Still Gujarathis make it a point and give some Dhanam (gift) there and still believe Mahavishnu still takes Dhanam....(Source-Anantharama Dikshitar)

Sangeet · Post by **Sangeet** » 20 Jul 2013, 07:22

By the way, arabhi is also a Hindi name of a vegetable.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 31 Jul 2013, 08:47

arav(b)i is sEmbu, sEppangizhangu (slimy, but delicious to many). That's arabi and not Arabhi--don't tell me they come from Arabia! They don't have bogs in their sandy terrain, unless they have 'created' them too, like ski slopes!

This 2007 thread has been revived now! How I wish we could go back to that year and pretend we still are of that age!

VK RAMAN · Post by **VK RAMAN** » 31 Jul 2013, 09:27

here is a write-up in a blog; very informative:
http://anuradhamahesh.wordpress.com/car ... ng-melody/

Rsachi · Post by **Rsachi** » 01 Aug 2013, 19:52

The Oxford Hindi English Dictionary.

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 01 Aug 2013, 22:04

There is a nice write up on Arabhi here:
http://anuradhamahesh.wordpress.com/car ... ng-melody/

saarangam · Post by **saarangam** » 29 Aug 2013, 12:06

A very informative write up. My appreciations to Anuradha Ramesh for the write up and my thanks to Laksmanji for the post.

Ranganayaki · Post by **Ranganayaki** » 24 Jan 2014, 13:22

To me "Aarabhi" is related to the word rabhas in sanskrit. The word has connotations of force, ferocity, fervor, etc. The raga certainly carries the bhava of such energy. The raagamudra (? can it be called that?) in Swati Tirunal's "Narasimha Mamava Bhagavan" has the following words describing the death of the Asura Hiranyakashipu:

"Atirabhasa nihata"..

I'm not sure how the grammar allows for the transformation of "rabhas" into "aarabhi".. but would like to throw this out there for anyone knowledgeable in sanskrit to confirm or correct..

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 26 Jan 2014, 00:01

A robust rAgA it surely is. Yes, it has 'force, ferocity and vigor'.

hariniraghavan · Post by **hariniraghavan** » 08 Feb 2014, 18:18

There is no word called Aarabhi in any of the Sanskrit dictionaries. So its origin is from elsewhere.

vgovindan · Post by **vgovindan** » 08 Feb 2014, 23:56

Arabhi (ArabhI) is called 'பழம்தக்காப்பண்' in Tamil.
Please refer to following links -
http://www.carnatica.net/newsletter/ara ... letter.htm
https://www.facebook.com/notes/tamil/%E ... 6058661699

According to the following website (Tamil) Arabhi is a Sanskrit word which means 'to sow or cultivate' (probably the Sanskrit word 'Arabh' is referred)
http://www.lakshmansruthi.com/tamilbook ... nII-27.asp

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