An appeal to MA

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thanjavooran
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An appeal to MA

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An APPEAL to THE MUSIC ACADEMY, CHENNAI.

Is Carnatic Music in any way of lesser importance than North Indian Music?

If a Planet in the Solar System is named for the first time after Pandit Jasraj
by the International Astronomical Union (IAU),
why not ARIAKKUDi or MSS, for that matter.

The Music Academy should represent to IAU and request them
to honour a Carnatic Musician too likewise.

The December Season is nearing.
A resolution should be passed in the Vidwat Sabha to this effect.

For your information, Pandit Jasraj's name is given to a Minor Planet
and is numbered 300128.
This number, it so happens, is the reverse date of Jasraj's Birth Date.

All Carnatic Music Lovers should jointly make an effort
to name a Planet after a great Carnatic Musician.

Music lovers can share their views please

Thanjavooran
01 10 2019

Pratyaksham Bala
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To start with, Bharatha Muni, OVK and all musicians mentioned in Sangeetha Sampradaya Pradarsini should have minor planets named after them. (Namakku En vambu? If I mention any one name, I will be hounded by hundreds.)


Joke apart, already there are a few Indians, who have minor planets named after them :-

In 2002, a planet, code number 12509, was named after Madhav Pathak, who has changed the conventional Braille slate.

In 2002, a minor planet, code number 12599, was named after Akshat Singhal, 17-year-old boy from Jaipur’s St Anselm’s School.

In 2008, a minor planet, code number 5718 CD4, was named after Kollam-based scientist, Dr Sainudeen Pattazhy.

In 2010, a minor planet, code number 21575, was named after a Pune-based teenager Hamsa Padmanabhan who was then 16.

In 2015, a minor planet, code number 4538, was named after Viswanathan Anand.

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List of minor planets named after people -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_m ... ter_people

shreyas
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That digressed quickly...

Pratyaksham Bala
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shreyas wrote: 02 Oct 2019, 08:12 That digressed quickly...
OK. To be serious.

How Are Minor Planets Named?

The discoverer of a particular object has the privilege of suggesting a name to a committee that judges its suitability. If you have a name you would like to apply, the best advice is "Go out and discover one!".

The assignment of a particular name to a particular minor planet is the end of a long process that can take many decades.

The discoverer is accorded the privilege of suggesting a name for his/her discovery. The discoverer has the privilege for a period of ten years following the numbering of the object.

The discoverer writes a short citation explaining the reasons for assigning the name.

Discoverers have to submit name proposals and citations via a web-form. Registration is required to use this form and is only available to discoverers of numbered minor planets.

Names are judged by the fifteen-person Committee for Small-Body Nomenclature of the International Astronomical Union, comprised of professional astronomers from around the world.

Accepted names become official when they are published, along with their accompanying citations, in the Minor Planet Circulars, issued monthly by the Minor Planet Center.

For more details, check:
https://minorplanetcenter.net/iau/info/HowNamed.html

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In short, Music Academy does not have any locus standi, nor any member of this forum who has not discovered a minor planet !

shankarank
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Erect a telescope or something in their terrace! They also need quite a long vision don't they :lol:. Well no seeing stars in vision :lol:

Or the wall of fame will run out of space - they could try this and project the stars of music into night sky : https://www.trinfinity8.com/strange-hol ... n-the-sky/

Nick H
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thanjavooran wrote: 01 Oct 2019, 16:03 Is Carnatic Music in any way of lesser importance than North Indian Music?
Indeed it is not! I appreciate your thoughts, but look at it this way...

Planets are in short supply compared to people. Say your have two children: you name one for one god, and the other for one goddess. Is that against the many deities whose names you did not choose? No.

So let us be happy with what we have.

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If you want something named after you, you need to make yourself more well known. Spotlights shine on us when we erect them, turn them on and turn them towards us. Can't leave that job into the hands of others and hope they'll notice it someday.

Let's instead hope to name a star after our idols - that would be better - oh never mind, the whole thing is so childish in the end...

Side note : How many people can even recognize the few stars up there, that is if they can even see them in today's light polluted skies? I hope the indoor generation actually knows what a star in the sky is... :lol:

Ok, in our ancient Indian system of astronomy we had a star named after Agastya muni. Right now without cheating on wikipedia or google, who knows which one it is?

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The only sensible thing to do would be to rename Pole Star as Madras Music Academy. It is the only constant in a miasma called Carnatic music. Everyone looks up to MMA and anyone who hitches his fortune to MMA has his career graph move northward. Seriously.

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Sachi_R wrote: 11 Oct 2019, 22:25 The only sensible thing to do would be to rename Pole Star as Madras Music Academy.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :D

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Pratyaksham Bala wrote: 01 Oct 2019, 17:11 .


In 2002, a planet, code number 12509, was named after Madhav Pathak, who has changed the conventional Braille slate.

In 2002, a minor planet, code number 12599, was named after Akshat Singhal, 17-year-old boy from Jaipur’s St Anselm’s School.

In 2008, a minor planet, code number 5718 CD4, was named after Kollam-based scientist, Dr Sainudeen Pattazhy.

In 2010, a minor planet, code number 21575, was named after a Pune-based teenager Hamsa Padmanabhan who was then 16.

In 2015, a minor planet, code number 4538, was named after Viswanathan Anand.


There is one carnatic musician who has a planet named after her, for her mathematics in 2013, when she was 15. She is Sahana Vasudevan.
https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=28636#content

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vanajan wrote: 21 Oct 2019, 02:18There is one carnatic musician who has a planet named after her, for her mathematics in 2013, when she was 15. She is Sahana Vasudevan.
https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=28636#content
THANK YOU !
AND CONGRATULATIONS TO SAHANA VASUDEVAN !


Searched for 'Sahana Vasudevan' in this forum, and got a wealth of information !

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Wow :)

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vanajan wrote: 21 Oct 2019, 02:18 There is one carnatic musician who has a planet named after her, for her mathematics in 2013, when she was 15. She is Sahana Vasudevan.
Vanaja
Super . Let us soon have a satelliate with MP3 recording where in loop it plays sree vathapi ganapthiyE ,vandanamu raghu nandana sEthu bandana and giripai nelakonna .

vanajan
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rajeshnat wrote: 21 Oct 2019, 09:42 Vanaja
Super . Let us soon have a satelliate with MP3 recording where in loop it plays sree vathapi ganapthiyE ,vandanamu raghu nandana sEthu bandana and giripai nelakonna .
Rajesh,
It is in the main asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. No use playing anything out there, only silence can be heard!

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vanajan wrote: 21 Oct 2019, 10:38
Rajesh,
It is in the main asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. No use playing anything out there, only silence can be heard!
Vanaja
Are you saying sound cannot exist in that asteroid belt between mars and jupiter . If yes ,we can then ditch all the sahanas we can try angaraka(In ShuruTTi) with preferably a MD Ramanathan rendition . I bet Mars will wake up with MDR's angaraka. Looking at success/failure of Mars then we can go to Jupiter.

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rajeshnat wrote: 21 Oct 2019, 12:05 Vanaja
Are you saying sound cannot exist in that asteroid belt between mars and jupiter . If yes ,we can then ditch all the sahanas we can try angaraka(In ShuruTTi) with preferably a MD Ramanathan rendition . I bet Mars will wake up with MDR's angaraka. Looking at success/failure of Mars then we can go to Jupiter.
Rajesh,
I am not very knowledgeable about atmosphere of different planets. AFAIK, sound does not travel in vacuum, it needs a medium. If there is an atmosphere, then sound can travel. Since most of the space is vacuum, we can't hear sounds. Astronauts use radio waves to talk to each other when they are outside their space station.

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