pibare ramarasam in which raga?

musiclover24 · Post by **musiclover24** » 03 Nov 2007, 00:21

Hi all,
The song "pibare ramarasam" from telugu movie "padamati sandhya ragam" is in which raga? i think it is in raag mukhari, but i am not sure,,
Thanks

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 03 Nov 2007, 00:23

if it is same as BMK's version then it is ahir bhairavi/cakravAkam

jhnlasik · Post by **jhnlasik** » 03 Nov 2007, 06:16

It is called "Ahir Bhairav" not "Ahir Bhairavi"

PP Govindachari · Post by **PP Govindachari** » 24 Nov 2007, 05:50

MS Sheela sangthis in yaman kalayani so beautifully.

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 25 Nov 2007, 12:11

I asked my wife lalitha(gobichettipalayam),from whom ,ihave taken my forum name to sing it in ananda bhairaviand vasantha it was very pleasing, thanks to guru sadhasiva brahmendral,..The song has been beautifully composed ,it suits any raaga. balasubramanian gobilalitha

baboosh · Post by **baboosh** » 25 Nov 2007, 16:14

PP Govindachari wrote:MS Sheela sangthis in yaman kalayani so beautifully.

Actually SSI/MSS and others rendered the Yamunakalyani version for many years which was later set to ahirbhairav by MBK.

cienu · Post by **cienu** » 25 Nov 2007, 20:05

"Actually SSI/MSS and others rendered the Yamunakalyani version for many years"

This composition in Yamuna Kalyani was set to tune by SSI.. MS used to sing a Viruttam before singing "Pibare Ramarasam"

PP Govindachari · Post by **PP Govindachari** » 25 Nov 2007, 21:42

I shall be very grateful if someone can give me link/ means of hearing this song rendered by SSI

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 26 Nov 2007, 01:01

gobilalitha wrote:I asked my wife lalitha(gobichettipalayam),from whom ,ihave taken my forum name to sing it in ananda bhairaviand vasantha it was very pleasing, thanks to guru sadhasiva brahmendral,..The song has been beautifully composed ,it suits any raaga. balasubramanian gobilalitha

That is very true. The lyrics are very flexible. Here is my attempt
http://www.sendspace.com/file/52n8ku
If it sounds like from a harikatha then it must be so, since that is my forte

I would appreciate if you can u/l the anandabhairavi/vasantha versions of your wife!

vageyakara · Post by **vageyakara** » 26 Nov 2007, 16:38

fOR THE INFORMATION OF cmlOVERS,
I have tuned pibhare rama rasam i the ragam "REVATHY" AND THIS WAS SUNG BY sMT rAJEEgOPALAKRISHNA IN THE air SOME YEARS AGO
sim ilarly StiratAnahi nahi rE in Vasanthi Ragam and the same was also sung in herconcert(AIR) titlinf "Sadaashiva Brahmmendral compositions.
Ramaraj

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 26 Nov 2007, 17:26

dear cmlover, many thanks.she sang casually. IT REQUIRES SOME REHEARSALS BEFORE POSTING..i WILL ASK HER TO DO IT .. very kind of you gobilalitha

baboosh · Post by **baboosh** » 26 Nov 2007, 20:45

cienu wrote:"Actually SSI/MSS and others rendered the Yamunakalyani version for many years"

This composition in Yamuna Kalyani was set to tune by SSI.. MS used to sing a Viruttam before singing "Pibare Ramarasam"

MSS version and vrittam is available in her AIR recitals commercial recording by Saregama.The Vrittam is a sloka byVyasa Maharishi starting with Shantham Saasvatham Aprameyam

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 26 Nov 2007, 21:26

Dear Ramraj
It will be nice to hear the renderings in rajee's voice in case you have an audio! Most of SB were tuned by SSI superbly. However the ragas are not etched in stone and the mood created by the words will vary accordingly. When I used Atana I had the feeling of 'command' while the YK tuning by SSI conveys 'divinity' as sung by MS; and BMK's Ahir bhairavi gives the adhbuta rasa. I have the feel that anandabhairavi will give 'kuthoohala' rasa. I am sure BSaranga or madhyamavati will convey an overwhelming bhakti rasa and will make it a nice concluding piece for concerts!

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 29 Nov 2007, 17:28

dear cm lover, i was able to tune some songs via send space mp3 but no atana but I was able to hear sahana, chkravaham ahir bhairav,anandabhairavi,kedar and vasantha .wonderful your voice is magnificent .my opinion is you are more adept in hindustani raagas i am reminded of AJOY CHAKRABORTHY..who is the lady singing with a beautiful divine voice. thanks for posting these songs gobilalitha

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 02 Dec 2007, 11:44

here is an anecdote of comedy of errors and a good joke of 2007 . in an earlier post cm lover had sung pibare rama rasam in atanaa in a send space.com file .on the same day some of ajay chakrobarthy"s alaapsin raagas,sahana, chakravakam,ahir bhairav,kedar were posted inthe thread fusion music when i tuned for cm lover's atana, these songs by ACwere played. . thinking that these songs were by CM LOVER, I complimented him saying your voice is just like AC'S. your hm raagas are better rendered than carnatic raagas ..today CMLOVER has sent a mail to me that he does not know any hm raaga and he could not understand what I have written about .see the above post of mine dated29/11 ..unfortunately I have not been able to get his pibare raama rasam in atana gobilalitha

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 02 Dec 2007, 21:15

Great! Mystery resolved indeed! I am reminded of the famous story about Einstein's early days at Princeton when he was not too well known and was being invited to give lectures on the Theory of Relativity. Once his driver complimented him about the acclamations whence Einstein quipped that it was all quite simple and that the driver should deliver his next talk which was well prepared and he himself would assume the role of the driver. . While heavily protesting and being as musch interested in the fun of it the poor fellow agreed and mounting the dais with quivering legs delivered a brilliant speech. The audience were totally appreciative of the (pseudo) Einstein and one of them ventured to ask a question about a complex equation that was used in the paper. As the audience waited in hushed silence, without batting an eye the 'driver' responded that he question was so simple that even his driver should be able to answer it. And of course the "driver" mounted the podium and presented a brilliant explanation. That is what we would have said succinctly in Tamil kamban veeTTu kaitthaRiyum kavi pADum . So poor cmlover through the august association with kulkarni posting melodious AC in sendsapce is getting the credit is providence and not a 'comedy'

viva la sendspace

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 02 Dec 2007, 23:52

CML, quite an appropriate story.... Though this is popularly told about Einstein, the story is false, just one of these endearing fairly tales.

ragam-talam · Post by **ragam-talam** » 03 Dec 2007, 00:04

The story is indeed apocryphal... http://www.snopes.com/humor/jokes/einstein.asp

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 03 Dec 2007, 00:12

I know but I love it! Aren't we excited about the 'myths' regarding our Trinity though we know most of them are indeed myths

( I did ask his son about it who gave me a quizzical smile and said that if I wanted to believe it then by all means I can. He added that the said 'driver' must have had guts of steel to have taken a ride with his dad who though a great scientist was indeed the worst driver on the roads

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 03 Dec 2007, 00:16

Thanks Ragam!

shishyapriya · Post by **shishyapriya** » 10 Dec 2007, 23:36

Nithyasree has sung the same song in "Hamir Kalyani"

ayilur · Post by **ayilur** » 31 Mar 2008, 19:13

Can anyone post or lead to the songs sung by the mentioned artistes? Thanks.

rajesh_rs · Post by **rajesh_rs** » 30 Jul 2008, 19:22

Are there Gamaka and prayoga differences between Ahir Bhairav and Chakravakam? I ask since Pibare Ramarasam sounds rather different from other songs in Chakravakam such as "Maleya Marutha" from the Kannada movie Maleya Marutha or even the popular "Gananayutham".

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 30 Jul 2008, 19:38

According to B.Subba Rao (Raganidhi), there are two types of ahIrbhairav.
SRGMPNDPMPDS/SND..PM..PGMPGR..S or MRS
SRGMPGMDNS/SNDPMGRSNRS

Shyamalajr · Post by **Shyamalajr** » 31 Jul 2008, 09:59

rajesh_rs wrote:Are there Gamaka and prayoga differences between Ahir Bhairav and Chakravakam? I ask since Pibare Ramarasam sounds rather different from other songs in Chakravakam such as "Maleya Marutha" from the Kannada movie Maleya Marutha or even the popular "Gananayutham".

Do you mean GajAnanayutham in Ragam Chakravakam ?

rajesh_rs · Post by **rajesh_rs** » 31 Jul 2008, 17:39

Shyamalajr, yes, I meant Gajananayutham. Sorry for the typo, didn't realize it.

Shyamalajr · Post by **Shyamalajr** » 31 Jul 2008, 18:01

I would like to know if Chakravakam and Vegavahini are one and the same i.e. Is Vegavahini the name of the raga in the Dikshitar school ?

rajesh_rs · Post by **rajesh_rs** » 01 Aug 2008, 03:12

I don't know if this is a reliable resource, but this webpage (http://www.geocities.com/vienna/strasse ... shitar.htm) says that Gajananayutham is in Vegavahini.

blackadder · Post by **blackadder** » 05 Aug 2008, 14:04

My understanding is that, under the asampoorna mela scheme that Dikshitar followed, Chakravakam is known as Vegavahini.