mandhari and amritavarshini

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 15 Apr 2008, 07:10

what are the simlarities and differences between these 2 raagas. kriti in mandhari other tha paraloka may be posted gobilalitha

kmrasika · Post by **kmrasika** » 15 Apr 2008, 13:02

The only difference I can think of is that mandAri has a rishabham as opposed to amr.tavarshiNi.

PUNARVASU · Post by **PUNARVASU** » 15 Apr 2008, 13:59

'Ninnu cheppa(or jeppa?) kAraNamEmi manasA is a kriti in MandAri.
As Kmr wrote
Mandari-srgmpns-snpmgrs
Amritavarshini-sgmpns-snpmgs
The swaras are sudhdha rishabham,antara gandharam,pratimadhyamam,panchamam and kakali nishadam in the former
and the same minus sudhdharishabahm in the latter.

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 15 Apr 2008, 14:24

the song ninnu cheppaka is sung by some musicians as :" ninnu cheppaka " ranamemi manasa .. thanks punarvasu and km rasika gobilalitha

PUNARVASU · Post by **PUNARVASU** » 15 Apr 2008, 17:20

gobilalitha wrote:the song ninnu cheppaka is sung by some musicians as :" ninnu cheppaka " ranamemi manasa .. thanks punarvasu and km rasika gobilalitha

Is it so?I do not know. Probably I am wrong!

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 15 Apr 2008, 17:52

you are not wrong, what I meant was the first line is split like that. by some. gobilalitha

vignesh.ishwar · Post by **vignesh.ishwar** » 15 Apr 2008, 18:07

kritis in mandari...i hav heard are ennalu and enduki puja......both familiarised by the alathur brothers and tm krishna...

PUNARVASU · Post by **PUNARVASU** » 15 Apr 2008, 18:28

I think Mandaris is considered a janyam of Pantuvarali while Amritavarshini is a janyam of Gamanashrama.

kmrasika · Post by **kmrasika** » 16 Apr 2008, 14:20

I think you might want to hear a clip of vAsudEvAccArya's varNam, "vanajAksha ninnEkOri" in mandAri. He has incorporated all the required svara prayOgAs of this rAga in the piece.

rbsiyer · Post by **rbsiyer** » 30 May 2008, 11:47

kmrasika wrote:I think you might want to hear a clip of vAsudEvAccArya's varNam, "vanajAksha ninnEkOri" in mandAri. He has incorporated all the required svara prayOgAs of this rAga in the piece.

Sudha Ragunathan sung this relatively rare varnam for a change at her Academy concert this past season.
The Mandari varnam has been recorded by Mani Krishnaswami in an album (MDC 306, Dreams Audio)
details/clips of the Ennalu mentioned by vignesh.ishwarany would be appreciated.

Re. Amritavarsini, a clip from Charulatha Mani's Isai Payanam on Jaya TV:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A2OdmJ6HrM[/youtube]

This is however brief. There is more detail in Isai Payanam - DVD version (volume 7, GDVD-012, Giri Trading)

P.S.Iyer's Entha Poojala is recorded by Alatur bros. (AVM Audio A2V90584)

kmrasika · Post by **kmrasika** » 30 May 2008, 12:20

Other compositions in this rAga are ennALLutiruppucunu and atiShaya vara prasAdini (both by HMB), tillAnA (tanjore quartette) , bhaja mAnasa ShrI vAsudEvam (vAsudEvAccArya), paralOka bhayamu (?), and paravAsudEvam (UVK).

prashant · Post by **prashant** » 30 May 2008, 15:36

endukiDu Capalamu in misra CApu is also a very nice one.

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 30 May 2008, 19:30

rbsiyer wrote:

P.S.Iyer's Entha Poojala is recorded by Alatur bros. (AVM Audio A2V90584)

Thete is no such song by Patnam. The song is mislabeled on musicindiaonline.
It is endukiTu capalamu vinavE.

Sreeni Rajarao · Post by **Sreeni Rajarao** » 30 May 2008, 20:31

One more kriti in mandAri:
Veena Raja Rao's 1942 composition in kannada language : lOkAvana catura ennoLintu nirdayave .........

I have the swara and sAhitya in kannada script, no audio file.

Sreeni Rajarao

rbsiyer · Post by **rbsiyer** » 30 May 2008, 20:32

Lakshman wrote:rbsiyer wrote:

P.S.Iyer's Entha Poojala is recorded by Alatur bros. (AVM Audio A2V90584)
Thete is no such song by Patnam. The song is mislabeled on musicindiaonline.
It is endukiTu capalamu vinavE.

This is Entha Poojala in Amritavarshini.

rbsiyer · Post by **rbsiyer** » 30 May 2008, 20:46

rbsiyer wrote:
Lakshman wrote:rbsiyer wrote:

P.S.Iyer's Entha Poojala is recorded by Alatur bros. (AVM Audio A2V90584)
Thete is no such song by Patnam. The song is mislabeled on musicindiaonline.
It is endukiTu capalamu vinavE.

I stand corrected. I just listened to my avm tape after several years. It is indeed Endukitu chapalamu in Mandari. It is labeled as Entha Poojala in Amritavarshini. At least musicindia got the ragam right!

balusatya · Post by **balusatya** » 30 May 2008, 22:17

According to Prof.SRJ"- Amrithavarshini can be considered Janya of 51,53,54-,63,65,66,-69,71,72 -can be fitted into as a Janya of 9 melakarthas.However,.as per convention the earliest no. to be accorded- ie.,51-kamavardhini."Raga lakshanams-Part -2.
*Padha bhajaname Bhagyamu-Meesu Krisknier is yet another kriti in this Ragaa.
* Sri. Ramnad krishnan rendering of Paraloka Bhaya mu comes to my mind when I think of Mandhari.