Sangita Kalanidhi-2008?

jeyaar · Post by **jeyaar** » 03 Jun 2008, 16:45

Any idea who will be the next SK?suggestions??why not get some inputs please?

Member_First · Post by **Member_First** » 03 Jun 2008, 16:59

Trichur V.Ramachandran or One of the two SuguNas

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 03 Jun 2008, 17:30

An article in the latest issue of Sruti canvases the award for TH Vinayakram.

kadambam · Post by **kadambam** » 03 Jun 2008, 19:28

It should be Vinayakaram

neelotpal.m.s · Post by **neelotpal.m.s** » 03 Jun 2008, 19:31

i think it should beT.H.Vinayakaaram

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 03 Jun 2008, 20:07

Would that be a first time for a upapakkavadyam artiste? Going by history it should be a violinist/instrumentalist this time.

vinayo · Post by **vinayo** » 03 Jun 2008, 20:18

Bombay Sisters?. Is it not overdue?.
But indications (?) are that it will go to Trisur V.Ramachandran.

cienu · Post by **cienu** » 03 Jun 2008, 22:04

vijay wrote:Would that be a first time for a upapakkavadyam artiste? Going by history it should be a violinist/instrumentalist this time.

Yes , it would be the first time ever for a Upapakkavadyam artist if THV is selected .

SSK · Post by **SSK** » 03 Jun 2008, 23:31

mohan wrote:An article in the latest issue of Sruti canvases the award for TH Vinayakram.

It is sad that, campaigning for awards and titles has taken such levels. I was always told that a lot campaiging happens behind the scences. The big question is "In all fairness to other distinguished vidwans, who might be equally deserving of such awards, Is the " Sruthi Magazine" going to carry out editorial articles???

VK RAMAN · Post by **VK RAMAN** » 03 Jun 2008, 23:58

Long deserved award for Trissur V Ramachandran. Let this come true

Sam Swaminathan · Post by **Sam Swaminathan** » 04 Jun 2008, 02:04

Let us for a moment forget the claims of "campainging" and focus on what Sri Vinayakaram has achieved in his career.....He has brought to the world stage a little known instrument, a mere clay pot, to what it is to-day. He is solely responsible for that. This is an achievement which should be recognised with out attributing any motives or machinations. In my opinion Sri Vinayakaram is an excellent choice. It is definitely long over due.

Sundara Rajan · Post by **Sundara Rajan** » 04 Jun 2008, 05:31

In view of the very large pool of deserving carnatic musicians, I am again recommending, as I did in previous years, that the Music Academy should make TWO awards every year, one for a vocalist and one for an instrumentalist. Otherwise many deserving artists will disappear from the scene before they are recognised, if the current regional/instrumental/ etc. quota/rotation system continues to be follwed. If this suggestion is followed, then my recommendation would be for both TVR and Vikku.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 04 Jun 2008, 06:50

Sam,
I agree with you. Vinayakram is indeed a super choice.

Sundara Rajan raises another valid point. The Cleveland Festival showcased many a veteran and made us focus on the merits of senior vidvAns. But for a few among them, though they deserve the honor, many are not going to be given the title. One vocalist and one violinist (or percussionist in alternate years) is a good idea. Considering the women artistes pool, it would be even better if they make it a point to choose a woman (in any of the categories) every year.

mri_fan · Post by **mri_fan** » 04 Jun 2008, 07:03

Although I am admittedly biased on my slant for mridangam artists, I think Karaikudi Mani is due for serious consideration. He has definately established a bani that is extremely popular and will stand the test of time. He also has made very strong efforts to popularize carnatic music with his Sruthi Laya groups. He also maintains an impressive number of students.

sankirnam · Post by **sankirnam** » 04 Jun 2008, 07:25

Sankaran is also due then, for his efforts in propagating the pudukottai school of mrudangam and pazhani anna's style of playing. He also bought great awareness of Carnatic music to North America, having been based in Toronto for the past 35 years or so. THV is also another fine choice, although I hear that the Academy is leaning towards giving TVR the title this year.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 04 Jun 2008, 07:34

I suppose that one award a year is a hurdle. Since they gave the award to a mrudangist last year, they might decide on a vocalist this year
unless they institute an award for an instrumentalist too. That would truly be a break in the tradition and there is little hope for that...

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 04 Jun 2008, 07:49

I think it is unlikely they would award two Sangeetha Kalanidhi-s in one year as the Kalanidhi presides over the Annual conference as well.

Recently they have introduced the Sangeetha Kala Acharya award which has gone to TH Vinaykram, M. S. Anantharaman, PS Narayanswamy, SR Janakiraman, Tanjavur Sankara Iyer, Sulochana Pattabhi Raman, Seetha Rajan and others. The academy is quite happy to award more than one Acharya award per year.

I am not sure if the Academy would be inclined to awarding the SK to a previous SKA receipient.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 04 Jun 2008, 08:10

Points taken, Mohan. Yes, sangeetha kala acharyas have been awarded to women too and will continue that way, it seems. However, those awards are given mainly to scholars who are teachers at universities and music institutions.
For those who cannot come under that category but merit an award by their excellence in performance can be given an award by another name (since two cannot preside over the sadas as you say, though Madame Clinton would inform us otherwise!).

mri_fan · Post by **mri_fan** » 04 Jun 2008, 08:32

sankirnam,

I agree that Sankaran is more than deserving, but I'm not sure if MA considers living in NA as a plus or minus. He certainly remains one of the leading artists. After those two, I'd put Dorai and Raja Rao next (in no order between the two). Raja Rao, in addition to his own expertise, has trained a tremendous number of talented artists, and Dorai's accomplishments are up to par.

venravi · Post by **venravi** » 04 Jun 2008, 09:18

My 2 cents. I suggest to give SK to TVR next year to coincide with GNB's birth centenary . This year SK can be given to THV

mri_fan · Post by **mri_fan** » 04 Jun 2008, 09:58

Venravi, I think THV getting the Sangeetha Kala Acharya may mean that he won't be a candidate for SK. Maybe he will be the first to get both, but I'm doubtful.

sankirnam · Post by **sankirnam** » 04 Jun 2008, 09:58

thats not a bad idea actually, maybe the Academy might consider it!

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 04 Jun 2008, 10:48

I guess, Acharya is a way of recognising people who wont get kalanidhi.. hence, PSN, TRS, SRJ, MSA et.al are ruled out for kalanidhi.

in 2007 season, it was Sri Palghat Raghu. Hence, there will not be a percussionist this year. definitely not!

It should most probably be a vocalist or some other instrumentalist.

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 04 Jun 2008, 10:50

MA has a Annual General Body Meeting on 29th June. There was an ad regarding the same on the hindu.

is it for deciding on these things?

kadambam · Post by **kadambam** » 04 Jun 2008, 11:00

right on target rbharath..

THV is definitely ruled out and Sankaran is also ruled out this year. I also doubt if Ramachandran gets the Kalanidhi this year.

It could be Ravikiran. He definitely deserves it & should not wait until he is 60+ for the award.

gopalank · Post by **gopalank** » 04 Jun 2008, 11:25

Why not TVG Sir... a multifaceted genius and a deserving senior. MA can also look outside Chennai and pick someone like KSG Sir...

ragam-talam · Post by **ragam-talam** » 04 Jun 2008, 11:49

http://www.musicacademymadras.in/kalanidhis.html
Most probably it will be a vocalist this year.

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 04 Jun 2008, 11:52

Looking at the above list, I should be corrected by saying that the Academy does not award more than one SK per year. In the first two years there were 2 awards given and a few years ago Sikkil Neela and Kunjamani received the award together.

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 04 Jun 2008, 14:47

I agree - Ravikiran would be a great choice. TVR would probably be a shoo-in based on seniority but the Academt has stuck to a cycle in recent times:

2007 - PR
2006 - TNS
2005 - MC
2004 - VR
2003 - TVS
2002 - Sikkil Sisters
2001 - UKS

So the cycle is something like vocalist-mrudangist-melodic instrumentalist. Using that funda, it could well be Ravikiran - would be refreshing to see an artiste get the award in his prime and none more deserving than Ravikiran.

If the pattern above continues it will surely be TVR next year.

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 04 Jun 2008, 15:53

if it has to be a melodic instrument.. then academy should be looking at people like VVS or T Rukmani or KSG or Nagai ? unless it should be surprise like 2002.

i dont think people like Ravikiran and E Gayathri will be considered this early. knowing academy, they will all be made to wait for there turn for many more years...

prashant · Post by **prashant** » 04 Jun 2008, 16:10

Nice suggestions, bharath. Given that the great flautist Sri KSG does not perform in Chennai, I wonder if the Academy would seriously consider him for the honour...?

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 04 Jun 2008, 16:37

well, KSG having problems with performing in madras is well known. if only, somebody could sort it and get him to perform in the city...

balusatya · Post by **balusatya** » 04 Jun 2008, 16:49

mohan wrote:I think it is unlikely they would award two Sangeetha Kalanidhi-s in one year as the Kalanidhi presides over the Annual conference as well.

Recently they have introduced the Sangeetha Kala Acharya award which has gone to TH Vinaykram, M. S. Anantharaman, PS Narayanswamy, SR Janakiraman, Tanjavur Sankara Iyer, Sulochana Pattabhi Raman, Seetha Rajan and others. The academy is quite happy to award more than one Acharya award per year.

I am not sure if the Academy would be inclined to awarding the SK to a previous SKA receipient.

I think SKN .Mani krishnasamy was earlier SKA.(telling from memory)

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 04 Jun 2008, 17:16

Here is the list of recipients of the Sangeetha Kala Acharya award http://www.musicacademymadras.in/kalaacharya.html

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 04 Jun 2008, 18:58

balusatya wrote:I think SKN .Mani krishnasamy was earlier SKA.(telling from memory)

That was not my recollection, and the link that Mohan posted confirms it - she received the SKN the year the SKA awards were instituted ('93). Talking about Smt. Mani Krishnaswami makes me wonder of she was the only 'product of' or 'person assocated with' kalAkSEtra to be recognized with the SKN? Tiger received it before kalAkSEtra was created.

kadambam · Post by **kadambam** » 04 Jun 2008, 20:47

If we look at an age-wise distribution of possible vidwans, we will get an idea for the next 5 years or so.

>60 - TVG, Trichy Sankaran, TVR, VVS, Bombay Sisters, Karaikudi Mani, OST (??)

Then we are into the late 30 - 40+ age groups which will witness Ravikiran, Sudha, U Srinivas, Vijay Siva, Sanjay etc.

Going by Academy's history, TVG eventhough well deserving for a SKN, may be given the SKA.

Out of the above list, Bombay Sisters and Trichy Sankaran appear to be in contention in the short term than the others.

Ghanjira Harishankar is surely missed and could be included in the Hall of Fame.

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 04 Jun 2008, 21:02

2 of them are long overdue
1. S.Rajam and 2. manakkAl rangarAjan

sankirnam · Post by **sankirnam** » 04 Jun 2008, 21:12

Harisankar isnt in the hall of fame? I thought I saw his portrait in the music academy lobby.

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 04 Jun 2008, 22:12

rshankar, budalur krishnamurthy sastrigal got kalanidhi in 1963. he was with the kalakshetra since the 40s.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 04 Jun 2008, 22:33

Thanks Bharat. I did not know he was with kalAkSEtra.

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 04 Jun 2008, 23:10

another ghatam artist who could be considered for kalanidhi is TV Vasan

ganesh_mourthy · Post by **ganesh_mourthy** » 06 Jun 2008, 14:20

A serious query, Y is that I dont see Lalgudi Jayaraman in the list of people conferred SK. ??????????????

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 06 Jun 2008, 14:43

ganesh_mourthy wrote:A serious query, Y is that I dont see Lalgudi Jayaraman in the list of people conferred SK. ??????????????

it has been asked and told many a times in the fora..

LGJ refused to accept kalanidhi when he was offered. They eventually gave it to DKJ that year.

PUNARVASU · Post by **PUNARVASU** » 06 Jun 2008, 14:45

rbharath wrote:
ganesh_mourthy wrote:A serious query, Y is that I dont see Lalgudi Jayaraman in the list of people conferred SK. ??????????????
it has been asked and told many a times in the fora..

LGJ refused to accept kalanidhi when he was offered. They eventually gave it to DKJ that year.

They finally honoured him this year.

ganesh_mourthy · Post by **ganesh_mourthy** » 06 Jun 2008, 15:07

A serious question again. If this had been discussed several times here , this may be a childish quesion. but still.....y did Lalgudi refuse?

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 06 Jun 2008, 15:13

Punarvasu wrote:
rbharath wrote:
ganesh_mourthy wrote:A serious query, Y is that I dont see Lalgudi Jayaraman in the list of people conferred SK. ??????????????
it has been asked and told many a times in the fora..

LGJ refused to accept kalanidhi when he was offered. They eventually gave it to DKJ that year.
They finally honoured him this year.

ya, they gave him a special life time acheivement award. not the kalanidhi

knandago2001 · Post by **knandago2001** » 06 Jun 2008, 16:18

How about Nookala Sri. Chinna Satyanarayana's chances of an award?

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 06 Jun 2008, 18:32

knandago2001 wrote:How about Nookala Sri. Chinna Satyanarayana's chances of an award?

As a Sangeetha Kala Acharya recipient (2002) he falls in the same category as PS Narayanaswamy and others.

appu · Post by **appu** » 06 Jun 2008, 18:53

Has RK Srikantan received this award yet ?

sankirnam · Post by **sankirnam** » 06 Jun 2008, 19:52

Yes, R. K. Srikantan received the SK in 1995.