V.V.Subramaniam, V.V.S.Murari-violin-@Toronto, May 9th,2009

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 10 May 2009, 17:13

with Tiruvarur Bhaktavatsalam on mrdangam and Delhi Sriram mridangam support.

Song list. Corrections welcome.

innisai yAzh kuzhal-varNa in hindoLagAmini (varamu)-V.V.Subramaniam
vAtApi gaNapatim-hamsadhvani-Dikshitar-sketch,S
rENukAdEvi samrakshitOham-kannaDabangALa-Dikshitar
parAtparA paramEshvarA-Vacaspati-P.Shivan-A
nAda tanum anisham-cittaranjani-Tyagaraja
rAma rAma rAma rAma-vasantA-Purandaradasa-S
nagumOmu ganalEni-AbhEri-Tyagaraja-A
kArtikEya gAngEya-tODi-P.Shivan-A,N,S,tani
akhilANDEshvari-dvijAvanti-Dikshitar-sketch
shrInivAsa tiruvEnkaTam-hamsAnandi-P.Shivan
shrI rAmacandra krpALu-mishra dEs, sindhubhairavi, durgA-Tulsidas
kAvaDicindu (I thought it was puLLikaLAba)
Tiruppugazh-pUrvikalyANi
mangaLam

mahavishnu · Post by **mahavishnu** » 10 May 2009, 20:01

L-ji. Thanks for posting the song list. It was very nice to see you yesterday.
Is KannadabangAla the same as Malahari?

I thought the kavadi chindu was Subramanya Bharathi's kAlamAm vanathil.
And the thiruppugazh was marukkulAviya.

rain_of_nectar · Post by **rain_of_nectar** » 10 May 2009, 21:42

mahavishnu wrote:Is KannadabangAla the same as Malahari?

Certainly not... if so, why would Dikshitar explicitly distinguish them with rAga mudra ('rENuka dEvi' and 'pancamAtanga mukha')? It is tough (for me) to explain the difference in technical terms, let's just say it's something like Bhairavi & Manji... something that calls for discernment, both from performer as well as listener!

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 10 May 2009, 21:59

Thanks mahavishnu. I am glad we were able to meet at the concert.

ajit · Post by **ajit** » 12 May 2009, 21:00

Was the mridangam support by Delhi Sairam - disciple of Thirvarur Sri Bhakthavatsalam?

ajit

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 12 May 2009, 23:48

ksrimech · Post by **ksrimech** » 14 May 2009, 04:19

mahavishnu wrote: Is KannadabangAla the same as Malahari?

Mahavishnu,

kannaDa bangALA - arOhaNA:S R1 M1 G3 M1 D1 P D1 S avarOhaNA: S D1 P M1 G3 R1 S
malahari - arOhaNA:S R1 M1 P D1 S avarOhaNA: S D1 P M1 G3 R1 S

Please note the G3 in the arOhaNA of kannaDa bangALA and its absent in the arOhaNA of malahari and also the usual vakra sancharas of the asampUrNa school. Close with that one difference.

mahavishnu · Post by **mahavishnu** » 14 May 2009, 06:05

thanks, Ksrimech. That is a very useful answer.

The reason I asked was because VVS played phrases from the geetham "Sree GaNanAtha" in his short raga sketch intro. I was wondering how this was permissible in KannabangALa. It is now beginning to make sense, especially how he ended the phrase with D1 P M1 G3 R1 S which is common to both.

ksrimech · Post by **ksrimech** » 14 May 2009, 10:08

Well it may be admissible in this case but not the viceversa because of the lack of the swara. I dont know what to say beyond this.