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vainika · Post by **vainika** » 05 Sep 2009, 14:32

srinivasrgvn wrote:Well, as you asked for it, I am uploading the recording wherein I've played the Brindavani Thillana of BMK. Hear it and please tell me.

Very nice, indeed!

srinivasrgvn · Post by **srinivasrgvn** » 06 Sep 2009, 05:51

ppraghu · Post by **ppraghu** » 07 Sep 2009, 08:39

ppraghu wrote:(If anybody is interested, I can post the vocal "swaravistharam cuts" of these ragams that I have collected so far of famous musicians - around 15-20 nos. for each ragam.)

vasanthakokilam wrote:I am interested in your "swaravistharam cuts". Please post.

Hello Vasanthakokilam,

I was finally able to put the "swaravistaram cuts" in eSnips which I used for my practice. Here are the links for Hamsadwani- Adi, Malayamarutham-Rupaka and Bilahari-K.Chappu.

http://www.esnips.com/web/VathapiGanapa ... anaSwarams
http://www.esnips.com/web/ManasaEtuloKalpanaSwarams
http://www.esnips.com/web/ParidanaMichi ... anaswarams

Regards
Raghu

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 07 Sep 2009, 11:18

Thanks Raghu. I sampled it and you have collected quite a good cross section. I will listen in leisure later.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 08 Sep 2009, 02:08

srinivasraghavan,
I enjoyed listening to your playing. You have asked experts to keep off. I'm just a listener, and so I qualify! Hope you learn more and more rAgams an krutis for your own enjoyment and for that of others too.

srinivasrgvn · Post by **srinivasrgvn** » 08 Sep 2009, 07:08

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 08 Sep 2009, 08:05

Experts aren't necessarily vAggEyakArAs and not all vAggEyakArAs happen to be experts!

sangeethsagar · Post by **sangeethsagar** » 16 Sep 2009, 09:29

Learning Siddhi Vinayakam, Ragam: Shanmukhapriya
Talam: Rupakam
Dikshithar Krithi
Version: Semmangudi

Ascending: s ri gi mi p dha ni s
Descending: s ni dha p mi gi ri s
and in HIndustani..

Raag: Durg.

Phool Khile Koyal.... and the Swaramalika and Lakshan geeth.

prashant · Post by **prashant** » 18 Sep 2009, 09:50

Now learning: mahAlakshmi karuNArasa lahari mAm ava mAdhava manOhari shri - adi - muttusvAmi dIkshitar

Aishu · Post by **Aishu** » 18 Sep 2009, 12:32

Hello Friends,

Abhogi is such a wonderful ragam especially to play it on an instrument. I just finished learning Karuna Rasa jala dey.

srinivasrgvn · Post by **srinivasrgvn** » 18 Sep 2009, 12:46

rajesh_rs · Post by **rajesh_rs** » 18 Sep 2009, 15:08

Aishu wrote:Hello Friends,

Abhogi is such a wonderful ragam especially to play it on an instrument. I just finished learning Karuna Rasa jala dey.

I love Abhogi too, loved "Sri Lakshmi Varaham" by Dikshitar set in this ragam. Splendid progressions. There seem to be two ways of rendering it - the way I play the song is the way Santhanam sings it because that's the rendition I have listened to most often. However, I found an old Semmangudi Iyer rendition of the song which has different swara progressions.

I remember posting a half-done Abhogi once on my blog:

http://philramble.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/abhogi/

I think the player with my recording there isn't working right because of a broken link. Will restore it. For those of you who like Shakti, there's a composition of Zakir Hussain in Abhogi called Ma No Pa. The video is embedded into the post I've linked to above.

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 18 Sep 2009, 23:31

prashant wrote:Now learning: mahAlakshmi karuNArasa lahari mAm ava mAdhava manOhari shri - adi - muttusvAmi dIkshitar

I heard this for the first time yesterday by DKP and Vijay Siva. A very impressive raga and composition. It sounded a bit like abhOgi and is listed as janya of 22 mEla.
What is the aro/ava for this raga and any interesting feature of this raga. There seems to be only one more (HMB) composition.

prashant · Post by **prashant** » 19 Sep 2009, 09:57

Suji Ram wrote:
prashant wrote:Now learning: mahAlakshmi karuNArasa lahari mAm ava mAdhava manOhari shri - adi - muttusvAmi dIkshitar
I heard this for the first time yesterday by DKP and Vijay Siva. A very impressive raga and composition. It sounded a bit like abhOgi and is listed as janya of 22 mEla.
What is the aro/ava for this raga and any interesting feature of this raga. There seems to be only one more (HMB) composition.

Suji - please see this very interesting blog post by our fellow member raviraj. A very insightful look into mAdhavamanOhari.

http://guruguha.org/blog/2009/03/raga-l ... amanohari/

rajesh_rs · Post by **rajesh_rs** » 19 Sep 2009, 13:26

I've been trying to play Thodi for some time now, with lukewarm success at best. Since I am self-taught, the only person I can turn to for advice was Guitar Prasanna - not that I know him, but because there are vids strewn around on youtube about his guitar technique. One of these videos is his demonstration of Thodi in an alapana.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFMBQj0lwZ4

I tried playing a Thodi this morning:

http://www.box.net/shared/0dn90r2vzx

Please listen. Do let me know if you have suggestions on how to play Thodi better. I use a standard fretted guitar (6 string electric) tuned CGCGCG which suits the male/female vocal range for the most part. I have used a bit of overdrive here in the amplifier to improve sustain and help me keep a note longer.

hemavathy · Post by **hemavathy** » 19 Sep 2009, 17:08

i wld just like to make a mention to Prashanths question as how to notate gamakams & learn them .
To notate gamakams is something very difficult. gamakams are to be learnt 1)take everything that is being taught . mind is a like human computer.as & when u want it automatically comes when u render. i am saying this from my personal experience i am in this field for the past thirty five years ..
constantly make it a point to hear a lot of Music

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 20 Sep 2009, 03:32

prashant wrote: Suji - please see this very interesting blog post by our fellow member raviraj. A very insightful look into mAdhavamanOhari.

http://guruguha.org/blog/2009/03/raga-l ... amanohari/

Thanks Prashant! A very detailed insight. So, are you learning with the appropriate D1 as per the notations?-I am guessing you are going with Smt Vedavalli's version. Do post a recording when you are done learning.
I like this kriti and may attempt to learn.

prashant · Post by **prashant** » 20 Sep 2009, 08:27

Suji Ram wrote: So, are you learning with the appropriate D1 as per the notations?-I am guessing you are going with Smt Vedavalli's version.

Suji, yes and yes!

I will contact you with the recording after I polish the song and can sing it properly [a long process

].

bhavarasa · Post by **bhavarasa** » 12 Nov 2009, 00:32

Learning Shri MD's shrI bhArgavi bhadram mE dishatu in rAgam mangalakaishiki - from TMK's O Rangasayee album. Short song but difficult raga to grasp and stay with.

VRV · Post by **VRV** » 26 Mar 2011, 01:57

Some time ago in our forum there used to be one such topic. I searched for the link and could not find it. I am starting this thread. In case someone can find the previous thread and merge that would be great.

After hearing Prof SRJ's rendition of the Mohanam Ata Tala varnam, in VK's thread "Attractive Charanam lines in Varnams", I called him up and asked him to teach me the varnam. He was so exuberant and started the varnam to be rendered in 3 speeds. What a session for an hour and a half.

I hope some of you will share what you all have been learning.

Vinod Venkataraman

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 26 Mar 2011, 02:11

The topic is here. It did not show up on search for me too.

http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10295

we can merge both

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 26 Mar 2011, 02:32

Merged. Yes, please keep this thread active...

babusri · Post by **babusri** » 26 Mar 2011, 14:55

After reading this thread, I got the audacity to record a raga alapana. Appreciate your comments. Thanks. You may hear repetition of phrases. This is due to lack of swara jnana --- and hard work required to attempt to acquire it --- that is required to elaborate further.

http://music.srinivasan.biz/temp/alap1.mp3

Sam Swaminathan · Post by **Sam Swaminathan** » 30 Mar 2011, 01:36

Suji Ram...great blog...I don't know how I missed this for such a long time and some very very useful tips...

Learnt recently Varana Mukha - Hamsadwani - Source - Sri MSG
Kai vida mattan - Valaji - Source - Smt Aruna Sairam

While overall the songs have come out well, still some more work is needed to get a reasonable amount of ornamentation fitted into rendering. The chittaswaram gave me a bit of trouble, but anna came here and sorted me out.

srikant1987 · Post by **srikant1987** » 30 Mar 2011, 08:56

VRV, Thanks for opening this thread again!

I am almost done with koniyADina nApai -- Ramnad Krishnan version. I simply am unable to get the mdp (mpdnpd mdp) part on the violin (I always have a problem coming "down" to pa on the A string, and here we even need a d anuswaram to demonstrate the force).

I guess if I keep trying, my fingers will figure out something before my brain does.

Next, I have many things to choose from -- finishing off rAvE himagirikumAri (I'll do second caraNam from notation and rest from KS's playing + reading lyrics), Adaya shrI raghuvara in Ahiri (KS + Alathur brothers), nA manavini (saurAShTram varNam of SS's) -- Notation + Rama Ravi, and ninnE kOri (Ahiri aTa tALa varNam) by Tharangambaadi Panchanadaiyar -- a disciple of Shyama Sastri, from notation alone.

Need to get some focus!

VRV · Post by **VRV** » 30 Mar 2011, 23:05

Srikant1987,

The Ramnad Krishnan version of koniyADina nApai is awesome. Who is the mridangam accompaniment on your recording.

Post a link of you playing it on the violin when you are ready.

Vinod Venkataraman

narayan · Post by **narayan** » 03 Apr 2011, 22:45

srikant1987 wrote:I am almost done with koniyADina nApai -- Ramnad Krishnan version. I simply am unable to get the mdp (mpdnpd mdp) part on the violin (I always have a problem coming "down" to pa on the A string, and here we even need a d anuswaram to demonstrate the force). I guess if I keep trying, my fingers will figure out something before my brain does.

Fan of this song and the Ramnad Krishnan version. srikant1987, where is mpdndp mdp in the song? Trying to recollect. Anyhow, congrats on the choice of song!

srikant1987 · Post by **srikant1987** » 04 Apr 2011, 10:20

VRV, It's http://66.182.253.251/www.sangeethamsha ... RK-TNK-PRR I learnt from.

And I might never be ready.

narayan, it is mpdnpd mdp, and it comes in the ciTTai. And thank you!

narayan · Post by **narayan** » 04 Apr 2011, 15:07

Picked up Manasuna neranammiti (Begada) with the tantalising cittaswaram from Ramnad Krishnan recording. The cittaswaram may not be an original part of Patnam's composition (would like info on its composer), but counting it, that's three at least in Begada (Sankari neeve and Anudinamu are two others). I've heard three c-swarams in Poornacandrika (for Telisi rama, Palukave and for Sriranganatham which DKP/J sing). Any ragam with more than three?!

tyagarajadasa · Post by **tyagarajadasa** » 04 Apr 2011, 23:05

narayan,
Not sure if youve heard the chittaiswaram in tyAgarAjAya namastE that B-M sing! Could you also give me a link to the begada kriti? Not finding in my folder!

Im currently working on this beautiful shrI kumAra that Smt. Kalyani Shrama taught me today but the surutti padam (koNTegADu) that she taught me recently has been going on in my mind continuously. So long as I do not mix aThANa and suruTTI, fine!

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