Data Migration Concerns

tkb · Post by **tkb** » 15 Feb 2010, 21:08

Hats off to the team doing this migration.

I sincerely hope all the features of the old system / forum will be there and only added with more features. One thing i notice is that while i can see a link to find the new post unable to make the ones appear as "mark as read" link. This helps a lot as a person need not see the same posts again and again. Pls adv if this is taken care.

Rgds TKB

karaharapriyajanyam · Post by **karaharapriyajanyam** » 15 Feb 2010, 21:17

I liked the old forum better. Easy user-friendly interface without too many complications. The colour scheme was a hundred times better. But anyway, change is the only constant thing! Hats off to the team!

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 16 Feb 2010, 04:17

How does one access the wiki?

sridhar_ranga · Post by **sridhar_ranga** » 16 Feb 2010, 12:24

Good job on the migration and congratulations.

A couple of items still on my wish list, which I found useful in the previous forum:

1. A serial number for each post under a topic. I couldn't find it here. Earlier we used to make references to older posts in the same thread (e.g. refer to #37 above...) - now the only way to point to a specific post is using the timestamp of the post?

2. I also miss the 'yesterday', 'today' tags on the timestamp of posts.

PUNARVASU · Post by **PUNARVASU** » 16 Feb 2010, 13:32

I would like to see the latest/last post first; earlier it was possible by clicking on 'last post'; now if we click on that we get only the profile of the poster.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 16 Feb 2010, 13:38

Punarvasu: There is a little icon to the right of the name in that last post column. That will take you to the last post in that topic.

vganesh · Post by **vganesh** » 16 Feb 2010, 14:47

PUNARVASU · Post by **PUNARVASU** » 16 Feb 2010, 14:51

VK, thanks.

tkb · Post by **tkb** » 16 Feb 2010, 17:15

vasanthakokilam wrote:Punarvasu: There is a little icon to the right of the name in that last post column. That will take you to the last post in that topic.

Thanks for this information. It is very useful.

TKB

Sreeni Rajarao · Post by **Sreeni Rajarao** » 16 Feb 2010, 19:32

Is the Forum email not working? I see a contact 'user id" button, but it is not activated.

S.NAGESWARAN · Post by **S.NAGESWARAN** » 17 Feb 2010, 00:31

Dear Administrator,

1.I would like to use my old password.How to change the new password alloted to me by you.

2.The letters appear in a smedged manner in the new format. Will you be able to change to the old bold and clear letters as used in the old format?

S.NAGESWARAN.
17.02.2010

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 17 Feb 2010, 01:53

Sri. Nageswaran, in the interim, if you look at the top right hand corner, below the 'Advanced search', you will see a dimly lit 'A' with a up and down arrow. Click on that a few times. It will take you through three different sizes. That does not change the font but only the size. See if that helps in the short term. Also, in your browser's view menu itme, there is an option to 'Zoom in'.

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 17 Feb 2010, 02:47

S.NAGESWARAN wrote:1.I would like to use my old password.How to change the new password alloted to me by you.

You can do that at http://www.rasikas.org/forums/ucp.php?i= ... eg_details

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 17 Feb 2010, 07:30

There seems to be a sort of lull in the activities of forumites after migration. I sincerely hope that soon the forumites will have all their doubts cleared and start posting, maintaining the allround interest that was in vogue . gobilalitha

sureshvv · Post by **sureshvv** » 18 Feb 2010, 15:22

The breadcrumbs on top is showing a crumb called "Carnatic Music" that may be removed. Seems to take one to the "General Discussions" forum always.

Gamakam · Post by **Gamakam** » 18 Feb 2010, 16:48

Hi moderators,

My posts in the old forum have not been migrated (Not that they are of any great value...but it is likely that there are forumites, whose valuable posts are missing too.)

Interestingly in the thread which I started in the new forum http://www.rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=12490 , my post is reflected under some other user id.

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 18 Feb 2010, 16:55

Ram,

Thanks, I will correct that.

Update: Corrected.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 18 Feb 2010, 20:15

gobilalitha wrote:There seems to be a sort of lull in the activities of forumites after migration. I sincerely hope that soon the forumites will have all their doubts cleared and start posting, maintaining the allround interest that was in vogue . gobilalitha

Well said! The migration is done. We have a brand new ball game on a better play field. Take advantage and do your best. The little things will be taken care of as we go!
Folks
Time to start rolling 8)

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 19 Feb 2010, 10:20

# The so called forum_flux we had was like a japanese car (honda and toyota). Then from the beginning of this month till the last few days we had a poor website which sucked big time like a typical chinese grey market stuff. Now in the last few days this site is somewhere in between, say a korean car hyundai . I have lot of cribs. Let me take the major ones first

1. We all usually open our website and open in new tabs different unread posts. The good news is it goes to the last unread posts , but the bad news is the session is not persisted across tabs if I need to post reply or quick reply , irritatingly it asks me to login. Fix this big time annoyance,session impersistence.

Other cribs will follow, I am away from forum as I am travelling till monday. good job srkris in atleast giving the korean stuff instead of that big time goof up that was before for the last few weeks :*

Infact I typed this and every time I submit it is irritatingly asked 3 times the login and password again.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 19 Feb 2010, 11:18

Rajesh: I tried to repro your problem with my login id with firefox but could not. Right clicked on the unread posts icon and opened it in another tab and then added a reply in that tab. That worked OK Is this the right repro procedure? I would expect the login credentials cookie to apply to the entire browser and hence to apply to all the tabs. Not sure what is causing your problem. Let us see if others can reproduce your issue.

girish_a · Post by **girish_a** » 19 Feb 2010, 16:16

gobilalitha wrote:There seems to be a sort of lull in the activities of forumites after migration. I sincerely hope that soon the forumites will have all their doubts cleared and start posting, maintaining the allround interest that was in vogue . gobilalitha

Get Harimau to make a few posts. That should shake people out of their lethargy!

:devil: 8)

laks1972 · Post by **laks1972** » 19 Feb 2010, 16:46

rajeshnat wrote:Other cribs will follow....

what is this word "crib" in this context ?? Following are the standard dictionary meanings of "crib":

1 A bed with high sides for a young child or baby.
2.
a. A small building, usually with slatted sides, for storing corn.
b. A rack or trough for fodder; a manger.
c. A stall for cattle.
3. A small crude cottage or room.
4. Slang One's home.
5. A framework to support or strengthen a mine or shaft.
6. A wicker basket.
7.
a. A petty theft.
b. Plagiarism.
c. See pony.
8. Games A set of cards made up from discards by each player in cribbage, used by the dealer.

Which of these meaning are you referring to ?? Perhaps 7a ??

sureshvv · Post by **sureshvv** » 19 Feb 2010, 17:43

laks1972 wrote:
what is this word "crib" in this context ??

<snip>

Which of these meaning are you referring to ?? Perhaps 7a ??

Seems that you may be lingo challenged. Think rajesh means this in standard desi cant - where crib means a minor quibble or complaint.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 19 Feb 2010, 22:16

What are you cribbing about?

It is in the OED.

crib v. b. To complain, to grumble. colloq. Cf. crib-biter.
1957 L.P.Hartley Hireling xi. 90 She calls on the neighbours, she's out half the time and doesn't answer the telephone, and when I start cribbing she just laughs.

laks1972 · Post by **laks1972** » 19 Feb 2010, 23:46

sureshvv wrote:Seems that you may be lingo challenged.

I am not, perhaps other people who use "crib" synonymous with complaint are.

The right word for complain is "whinge" - refer http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whinge

And vasanthakokilam, I did not find crib and complain as synonymous in OED.
Refer http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/crib?view=uk

As per OED, crib as a verb means copy (something) illicitly or without acknowledgement / steal.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 20 Feb 2010, 00:20

laks1972, check the full OED and not the concise one. I do not think the full one is available for free online.

In any case, what is the point? It is in common usage in Indian English.

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 20 Feb 2010, 04:07

laks1972:
Well, as VK says so many new words have found their way into the dictionary. So, any word is meant to convey the meaning intended by the user. A few years ago somebody in an online magazine in India used the word "dekko". I was perplexed since I did not see it in my dictionary. Then someone told me that word is a morph of "dEkO" (from Hindi) and got into OED to convey the meaning of "view" (as a noun).

But coming to the word in question "crib", if the word is supposed to mean "complain" in the verb form can it be used in the noun form too as "I have a few cribs" (to mean complaints)? Experts can tackle this one.

sureshvv · Post by **sureshvv** » 20 Feb 2010, 07:59

laks1972 wrote: Seems that you may be lingo challenged...

I am not...

Time to look up "lingo"

sureshvv · Post by **sureshvv** » 20 Feb 2010, 08:02

New forum does not allow quote inside quote. This was a rather nice feature... Can this be reinstated?

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 20 Feb 2010, 08:38

Good catch Suresh. If one tries to do that it says "You may embed only 1 quotes within each other."

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 20 Feb 2010, 19:21

Would like to see Vasanthakokilam whinge |(
Not really

This is just a way of saying hello after returning from my trip, spring cuckoo and all. This is my first post in the new forum.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 20 Feb 2010, 20:09

A red carpet welcome your Royal Highness to the New Forum. Your visit was long overdue

bilahari · Post by **bilahari** » 22 Feb 2010, 08:47

I cannot see emoticons in migrated threads. Does anyone else have this problem?

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 22 Feb 2010, 19:27

The problems that I mentioned before are still there(session not persisting)
# When I open new tabs for different posts and then click on post reply , it takes me again to the login and password page. I enter it then go again to that post in the first tab page and then reply works . So as such session is not persisted across tabs.

# Also I am getting an annoying message at times
"Sorry but you are not permitted to use the search system."
When I browse and click on any of the links

'Overall the usability problems are indeed still killing me', empowered to post but session is not persisted.

# Also I would like exactly the same way as show new topics and show posts of every user. Right now the messages are shown with only the first new lines and then ... appears for more .That does not give me an insight about the user who posted in one go , so as such forum_flux of show all topics and show all posts of the user is needed.

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 22 Feb 2010, 20:17

What happened to the Mark Forum Read link?

I knew where it was before I went away for a week!

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 22 Feb 2010, 22:17

Nick for the whole forum, (you can mark all unread posts in all the threads as read) it is at the bottom in the Board Index view, just under the Q and A thread. To mark topics in a particular thread as read, you have to open that thread (for example, General Discussions) and you will see the tab to mark posts in that thread as read in the upper right hand corner at the same level of the 'New Topic' tab on the left.

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 22 Feb 2010, 23:24

Thanks... I got there just now by following the instructions on another thread

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 23 Feb 2010, 17:46

Rajesh, the session not persisting for you alone may be related to your own systems (I see you are using the forum from your workplace) and proxy settings etc that are not directly related to the forum itself. Your search issues are also related to the session data.

With respect to the display of new posts, I will look into it.

gn.sn42 · Post by **gn.sn42** » 24 Feb 2010, 01:19

Nick H, are you the nick H from the old forum, or a different poster?

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 24 Feb 2010, 03:16

nick H is an (im)poster

---important poster!

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 24 Feb 2010, 09:06

A serious poster too, with his sense of humor--just in the manner of his serious face breaking into his patent smile

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 24 Feb 2010, 21:06

Me and my other half?

I now have no idea which is which, so make no claims at all as to which is the real me!

Maybe one is :devil: --- Maybe the other is

Maybe I'll be the last to know... Maybe even I don't know...

girish_a · Post by **girish_a** » 24 Feb 2010, 22:20

My God, just look at these smileys...ATROCIOUS!

1. Simple old-world smileys:

8)

2. When Abhangs are sung: :swear: :puke:

3. Hearty praise:

4. Drab concerts: :yawn:

5. Mid concert chatter: :call:

6. Reserved exclusively for Harimau: :devil: :@

:fubar: ;(

7. For VK's secret admirers: :inlove: :*

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 24 Feb 2010, 23:31

Girish_a,

Yes, but the old smileys were not animated.
Some of these emoticons are dispensable.
Why would VK whinge if he has so many secret admirers?
For those who do not know--it is the male of the species which makes music and he nests happily with his mate

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 25 Feb 2010, 05:56

Please leave this thread for data migration problems!
Hilarity can move to its home or to the lounge!

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 25 Feb 2010, 09:10

srkris
I am listing problems one after another to take stock as of now

Problems listed as of Feb 25th,2010:
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1.Date and time of each post should be with the beginning or header of the posts, just like what you have it here. It is just frustrating to see a long post then go to the end to see the date and time.

2. In the forum_flux we used to have two superb links called
'View all ramakriya's posts' and 'View all ramakriya's topics' which will give an expanded view of all posts vs few lines of posts with a ... as this site shows. That is a key feature for each of us to recognize who are all whose jalras , whose post should we respond , whose posts we should pass , please give that weapon back to each user.

3. The font is not as elegant and the background is not as elegant as the forum_flux which just rocked .Few forumites are finding it difficult to read. I am assuming font is ok only background color is the key .Try giving this color combination
http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1241 ... alore.html, the gray can be made little more towards white(in the same link you can see the date and time that I indicated for issue #1).This is just minor but if you can correct it that is fine.

4.Make the link 'mark all posts read' right next to 'view new posts' and 'view your posts' dont hide it behind the board index, every body is struggling to find the titanic ship in this atlantic ocean. :devil:

5. Super Major problem - Search is not working at all, fix everything.

I have five more typed I will post it later...

Most importantly I dont want you to get distracted in you writing any posts on anustanams/customs etc which you have replied.I do know if anything concerns on languages you , mahakavi and cmlover will have long battles . You can wait and be an active poster till you fix the above 5. You are the enabler for each of us to enable ourselves

Finally as a matter of absolute truth , the forum_flux was rocking everything worked with one important naked feature where in users can delete what they have posted , even that feature I have found scripts in forum_flux itself . If ever you asked us I would have helped you.

The reason you migrated was the transliteration language issue problem which may be there or not there (the reason you stated for migration, can you direct me to the link which has the problem fixed, since without search being functional I am not able to go that post) .

But as such you went ahead and you alone want to do everything,so as such for that small correction in that site itself , we lost may things now. Any way you win I lose, now we have moved forward.

By the way as such data appears preserved , you have done a great job in data migration (though not 100% sure perhaps transliteration language thread if you point out it is may be 100%)

But usability and users coming back , it is subjudice now |(

ragam-talam · Post by **ragam-talam** » 26 Feb 2010, 01:26

Have to agree with Rajesh on the points above, esp #3. The old forum was so much easier on the eye.
I have a hunch that if you can set the font/background close to that of the old forum, more of the 'lost members' would come back. The new look and feel doesn't measure up.

ragam-talam · Post by **ragam-talam** » 26 Feb 2010, 03:20

On second thoughts, leave it as-is. I used to be addicted to this forum before, am almost-cured now. ha-ha!
(was about to put a smiley from the list here, but they all move! - don't we have even a single static one?)

bilahari · Post by **bilahari** » 26 Feb 2010, 07:33

I especially miss the view topics function for each poster - it is easier to navigate to a certain thread that way. The emoticons are really childish (IMHO).

Ragam-talam, I entirely agree with you about the addiction! It's nearly gone!

appu · Post by **appu** » 26 Feb 2010, 12:02

bilahari wrote:I especially miss the view topics function for each poster - it is easier to navigate to a certain thread that way. The emoticons are really childish (IMHO).

Ragam-talam, I entirely agree with you about the addiction! It's nearly gone!

Bilahari, I too agree that the emoticons are childish and yes I am cured of my addiction too. I rarely visit the site and post.