National programme veena concert

sramesh · Post by **sramesh** » 12 Jul 2010, 05:35

Mrs Maheswari Venkitaraman i selected for National programme of music , being a desciple of Mr. Tirupanandl Shanmuga Sundaram Pillai, Mrs. Kamala Ashwathama and Mr. J. Venkataraman it is veery suitable as to respect the talented artist. Mrs. E. Gayathrai Madam broad mindly used to say Mrs Maheswari Venkitaraman as a fantastic artist in public, who else will be like to tellthis frankness and meritorious appreciation, she is really a great artist with broad mind to encourage talented this visually challenged veena artist

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 12 Jul 2010, 05:51

Your message is not very clear. Are you saying Mrs. Maheswari Venkatraman is already selected to give a national program or are you recommending that she should be selected? If it is the former then she is already recognized. If it is the latter this forum cannot do anything. Mrs. Gayathri (if she has endorsed Mrs. Venkatraman, as you say) can recommend to the appropriate officials in AIR and wait for the outcome.
I wonder what else you expect to do in this forum. If she is personally known to you it is not a bad idea to promote her. I'd suggest you do it where you can get results instead of just expressing your opinion here.

sramesh · Post by **sramesh** » 13 Jul 2010, 16:42

mahakavi wrote:Your message is not very clear. Are you saying Mrs. Maheswari Venkatraman is already selected to give a national program or are you recommending that she should be selected? If it is the former then she is already recognized. If it is the latter this forum cannot do anything. Mrs. Gayathri (if she has endorsed Mrs. Venkatraman, as you say) can recommend to the appropriate officials in AIR and wait for the outcome.
I wonder what else you expect to do in this forum. If she is personally known to you it is not a bad idea to promote her. I'd suggest you do it where you can get results instead of just expressing your opinion here.

thank you mr mahakavi, it is not thaat somebody was discussing the merit and demerit of the artist under the heading visually challenged to get a chancae in (lady artists)navarathrimandapam in Trivandrum she not such an artist and already having lot of meritorial qualifications You are scribbling something non-related, Mrs. Maheswari is an A grade Staff Aratist of All India Radio, Madurai, serving , now 18 years,if she understood she could procede for an insult against handicapped and take suitable action, if told this matter to mrs. gayathri madam,

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 13 Jul 2010, 19:26

Thank you sramesh. You are still not getting the message across. Maybe it is my low IQ that is impeding me from understanding what you say.

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 13 Jul 2010, 19:33

Sramesh. What you are trying to do or say may well be from the best of intentions. It is coming across as advertising!

sramesh · Post by **sramesh** » 14 Jul 2010, 00:19

Nick H wrote:Sramesh. What you are trying to do or say may well be from the best of intentions. It is coming across as advertising!

why you are feeling such opposition or hasty feelings when a new talented artist is introduced, isnt our duty to encourage vainikas that too a visually challenged or differentially abled with talented personalities.

ragam-talam · Post by **ragam-talam** » 14 Jul 2010, 00:25

sramesh, i am with you. I am actually upset you are not posting enough!
Why don't you post in all the sections, e.g. technical, light music, hindustani, tala, language, lounge, etc etc. Thank you.

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 14 Jul 2010, 00:51

sramesh wrote:Sramesh. ... when a new talented artist is introduced ...

A-grade staff artist of 18 years standing? Hardly "new"!

Many members bring new names to the forum for discussion --- sometimes to discover that they are well-know to other members, sometimes not. However, none of us are here to advance the careers of artist: we are not sabha secretaries or artist managers and, frankly, telling us how wonderful this lady is will not advance her career one jot.

A lot of us have our favourite artists, and a few of us may mention one or two of them rather more often than others. You are welcome to share your enthusiasm for this, or any other artist, here, but please consider that a stream of what appears to be promotion (with very little actual content) is about as interesting as the commercial breaks in a movie on the TV.

Pratyaksham Bala · Post by **Pratyaksham Bala** » 14 Jul 2010, 13:41

sramesh wrote:... and take suitable action, if told this matter to mrs. gayathri madam,

Most of us rasikas have come to know of Mrs. Maheswari Venkitaraman as a fantastic artist through your several postings under different heads. We wish her all the best.

See, we are all nice boys. Please, please don't complain to Mrs. Gayathri Madam against any of us!

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 14 Jul 2010, 14:03

Yes, very true.

And remember... online, misunderstandings happen easily!

sramesh · Post by **sramesh** » 14 Jul 2010, 18:43

Nick H wrote:Yes, very true.

And remember... online, misunderstandings happen easily!

thank you I am happy had been with you

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 14 Jul 2010, 20:00

Pratyaksham Bala wrote:
Most of us rasikas have come to know of Mrs. Maheswari Venkitaraman as a fantastic artist through your several postings under different heads. We wish her all the best.

See, we are all nice boys. Please, please don't complain to Mrs. Gayathri Madam against any of us!

PB:
Are you in second grade? Please stand up on the bench (for talking out of turn) and please keep standing until you are permitted to sit down. Rank subordination is not permitted here, you know. Don't forget to memorize the multiplication table while standing. Good boy!

Pratyaksham Bala · Post by **Pratyaksham Bala** » 14 Jul 2010, 20:08

mahakavi wrote:PB: Are you in second grade? Please stand up on the bench (for talking out of turn) and please keep standing until you are permitted to sit down. Rank subordination is not permitted here, you know. Don't forget to memorize the multiplication table while standing. Good boy!

In front of our dear veena teacher, I feel like a pity soul knowing nothing about playing veena. And worse still, there is threat of 'reporting to madam'. God help us all!

ragam-talam · Post by **ragam-talam** » 14 Jul 2010, 20:09

and take suitable action, if told this matter to mrs. gayathri madam,

sramesh - I feel you should report P Bala and mahakavi to gayathri madam. They have been very naughty boys lately.
See, I am the only one (girl or boy) around here who has some discipline.

By the way, I noticed you haven't listened to me as yet, so I am upset with you. Why don't you post in many more sub-forums? If you don't, I may have to report you to gayathri madam. And trust me, she will punish you for being a naughty boy!

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 14 Jul 2010, 22:37

I think we had our say, with a bit of fun, some of it a little sharp --- and should give sramesh a chance now to contribute without further bantering

Sundara Rajan · Post by **Sundara Rajan** » 15 Jul 2010, 08:55

I totally agree with Nick. I can't afford to laugh anymore. Let us give sramesh a break.

sramesh · Post by **sramesh** » 15 Jul 2010, 19:40

Sundara Rajan wrote:I totally agree with Nick. I can't afford to laugh anymore. Let us give sramesh a break.

i feel you have to sharp little more with practical experience Mr Maha kavi , but ofcourse not with a sharpener the music life is a ocean and the normal life is also not easy as you think but the discussion we shall take it easy you are all my best friends, eventhough I am a teacher, you need not to stand in second grade come fast to ixth grade

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 15 Jul 2010, 20:20

Thank you Mr. sramesh. I will pass it along to P Bala. It is he who is in second grade. He will be happy to be promoted to IX grade. I am already in IX grade. Next year PB and I will graduate and be free citizens.

kedharam · Post by **kedharam** » 15 Jul 2010, 21:03

Many thanks to â€˜nice boysâ€™, â€˜naughty boysâ€™ and â€˜not-so-naughty boysâ€™ for this much needed humorâ€¦you rasikas rock:):):)

ragam-talam · Post by **ragam-talam** » 16 Jul 2010, 01:08

I am going to report all of you to madam. And that includes Kedharam, SR, Nick, MK & others.
Btw, who is 'gayathri madam'??

sramesh - can we listen to audio clips of the veena artiste?

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 16 Jul 2010, 01:16

ragam-talam wrote: Btw, who is 'gayathri madam'??

sramesh is referring to the vINai vidUshi Smt. E. Gayatri ( I presume)

ragam-talam · Post by **ragam-talam** » 16 Jul 2010, 02:23

mahakavi wrote:sramesh is referring to the vINai vidUshi Smt. E. Gayatri ( I presume)

Ah, thanks for clarifying that.
Now I know whom I should report to.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 16 Jul 2010, 02:52

One naughty girl like me wants to be nice for a change and wants to tell all the naughty boys off.
Agreed, two things irk you: promotional hype and, uh, language. Instead of putting a stop to both, you are inviting more of it

Seriously, I would also call it a bit rude.
r_t,
Your asking for a recording was a good thing.
Wanting to listen to CM is a good thing. Wanting to listen to a recording of good CM is better, as the rasikas seem to agree upon elsewhere

and whether rasikas agree on or not on other things, most of them have expressed their solidarity there which wasn't forthcoming when a genuine rasika was skewered last year

ragam-talam · Post by **ragam-talam** » 16 Jul 2010, 23:14

arasi wrote:One naughty girl like me wants to be nice for a change

Never knew you as a 'naughty girl' at all! Please please, go back to your naughty self!

most of them have expressed their solidarity there which wasn't forthcoming when a genuine rasika was skewered last year

Sorry, can't help thayir-saadams who lack the backbone to stand up to bullies.

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 17 Jul 2010, 03:50

arasi wrote:....whether rasikas agree on or not on other things, most of them have expressed their solidarity there which wasn't forthcoming when a genuine rasika was skewered last year

When this issue came up at rasikapriya.net a whole bunch of us reacted against such high-handed approach of the duo and their lawyers. I don't understand what is meant by "...wasn't forthcoming .....was skewered last year". We came to know of the incident only after the submission of the apology in different forums by the affected rasika. We raised a hue and cry. That rasika was so intimidated that he never posted again. He just disappeared. Some of us (especially one V. Hariharan) investigated the possibility of a legal remedy. As of now with the new article in question, he is resurrecting the whole issue and he is ready to take the other party head on. He is seeking moral, vocal, and possibly financial (if needed) support.

bilahari · Post by **bilahari** » 17 Jul 2010, 05:02

"That rasika was so intimidated that he never posted again. He just disappeared."
Not so, MK! Not so at all!

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 17 Jul 2010, 05:32

bilahari wrote:"That rasika was so intimidated that he never posted again. He just disappeared."
Not so, MK! Not so at all!

bilahari:
That oneliner is not enough. Tell me more. Where is he? Don't tell me he is undercover

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 17 Jul 2010, 09:28

Bilahari,
What difference does it make, one way or the other? After all, he was not reprimanded by anyone on the Rasikas. As for the duo, they don't own Rasikas. They are not participants here either.

Mahakavi,
Answer to your query: Sorry, I was not clear in my post about the humiliation of the said rasikA. I must say that I was only speaking about 'this' forum.

bilahari · Post by **bilahari** » 17 Jul 2010, 09:42

Arasi, it does make a difference because it is not the truth. Hari was not intimidated into oblivion and I also wish people would stop saying he was 'humiliated', etc. It was TMK and VS who came out of that fiasco looking pitifully small. They attempted to humiliate him but failed miserably. I am also surprised that you think we were not supportive enough of Hari here. What exactly led you to that conclusion, may I ask?

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 17 Jul 2010, 10:14

Bilahari,
Let me go over it again: seeing all the surge of support in the past few days for the rights of rasikas as a whole made me recall that Hari, an individual rasikA did not have the same kind of overwhelming support then on the forum--I cannot locate the thread where it was all discussed to remember the details. Yes, you are right. They were the ones who tried to humiliate him but do you think that in a situation like that, one would and could walk away from the scene without being affected by it?
So, it's a pity if he stopped posting here as a result of it all. If he has come back, it's good news. Supposing he has, he might not want to be recognized in his new persona, don't you think? Then again, may be I'm wrong. I don't think I'd like it if someone says, 'will the real Hari stand up?' next.
I don't know how he will take it if he's' around. What if he wants to beat a retreat? Is that what we are looking for?
Then again, this is my personal view. There! Iv'e said it to the best of my ability

bilahari · Post by **bilahari** » 17 Jul 2010, 10:33

I am not saying he was not affected by it. But I AM saying that he was not cowed down by them as mahakavi insinuated.

Also, the apology thread in our forum was closed and had even disappeared within a day or two after it was started, leaving many of us no opportunity to publicly condemn TMK-VS. But perhaps in your infinite kindness you understand that not all sympathy and scorn needs to be shared publicly on this forum!

I just think you're being uncharacteristically harsh on this group.

As for your last point, I entirely agree. It is not my intention to 'out' Hari if he's posting on this forum/rasikapriya/wherever. If that is what it seemed like to you, I am sorry.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 17 Jul 2010, 11:01

Bilahari,
Yes, we understand each other, I think!
If I sounded harsh, it's possible that the weather isn't agreeable. We are experiencing very hot and humid days which don't seem to end. Darn! Whatever the climate is like at the forum too, I'll say this.: MAS is not a bad thing as some make it out to be. We all have a few admirable qualities, each one of us--one of them being the ability to appreciate whatever we find admirable in others. MAS is a good thing! And it fortifies the forum with positive energy. You know I'm not talking about that soppy, weepy ;( , sentimental stuff.
So, here goes: your reviews are awsome to start with

sramesh · Post by **sramesh** » 24 Jul 2010, 03:53

ragam-talam wrote:I am going to report all of you to madam. And that includes Kedharam, SR, Nick, MK & others.
Btw, who is 'gayathri madam'??

sramesh - can we listen to audio clips of the veena artiste?

yes ofcourse I could have you, but take time to trace out, because I am not familiar with computer. whenever discussing about great music personalities you should give respect and keep manners, are we capable to understand her techniques while playing

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 24 Jul 2010, 04:19

OK, r-t, it is now your turn to stand up on the bench and repeat "I shall not use the name of Madam in vain" 100 times. If you do not want to recite that 100 times, your option is to stretch your palm out for 100 cane lashes. Now pick your choice.

sramesh · Post by **sramesh** » 24 Jul 2010, 05:11

mahakavi wrote:OK, r-t, it is now your turn to stand up on the bench and repeat "I shall not use the name of Madam in vain" 100 times. If you do not want to recite that 100 times, your option is to stretch your palm out for 100 cane lashes. Now pick your choice.

like somebody scribbling in unconcious mind without knowing the basic manners or wilfully insulting to harsh or harm or with a sadist mentality, even in this century, better you may eat sand and drink water

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 24 Jul 2010, 05:49

sramesh sir:
My message was addressed to r-t and not to you. Pl read my message again. I mentioned r-t's name there. Pl forgive me if you thought I was addressing you.
Sadism may have been in existence from the dawn of humanity, sir! But I swear I have never heard of it until you mentioned it, sir.
I can drink water alright. Pl tell me how to digest sand (I know its composition---it is silicon dioxide. I have to break the Si-O bonds and then use that oxygen in some manner to make food. I am working on that research project now). If you know a shortcut I shall be grateful for that knowledge.

bhavarasa · Post by **bhavarasa** » 04 Aug 2010, 02:30

mahakavi wrote:sramesh sir:
My message was addressed to r-t and not to you. Pl read my message again. I mentioned r-t's name there. Pl forgive me if you thought I was addressing you.
Sadism may have been in existence from the dawn of humanity, sir! But I swear I have never heard of it until you mentioned it, sir.
I can drink water alright. Pl tell me how to digest sand (I know its composition---it is silicon dioxide. I have to break the Si-O bonds and then use that oxygen in some manner to make food. I am working on that research project now). If you know a shortcut I shall be grateful for that knowledge.

Mahakavi, I believe drinking water helps digest the sand that you ate in Step 1 of your punishment. So, it is not really as bad (or dangerous) as it sounds. As classroom punishments go, this one seems to be more benign. Certainly not as bad as "getting reported to madam". And trust me when I say this as I've been asked to "report to madam's office" many a time during my schooldays. Now, "reporting to madam's office" is invariably followed by "get this notice signed by your parents by tomorrow" which leads one to put on a Sivaji Ganesan style drama that evening at home in order to get it signed.

Aaah.. I digress. Now, what was this thread all about?

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 04 Aug 2010, 02:47

>>Now, "reporting to madam's office" is invariably followed by "get this notice signed by your parents by tomorrow" which leads one to put on a Sivaji Ganesan style drama that evening at home in order to get it signed.<<
bhavarasa:
If I were you I wouldn't stage any such drama. I'd just scribble my parent's signature without hesitation. In addition I'd type a note to the madam (in the name of my parent and the same scribbled signature, of course) to subject me to a further punishment of eating sand and drinking water in the class itself. Let us wait out and see how long it takes to digest the sand. I promise you it will exit undigested in no time. Actually, come to think of it, it might cleanse your colon too. So it is a blessing in disguise.
(srameshsir: pl note.)
Now I can report to madam's office on my own.

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 04 Aug 2010, 03:02

While you're all at school, let me amuse you with this absence note:

Dear Teacher. Johnny can't come to school today as his dad is ill and the pig has to be fed.

ksrimech · Post by **ksrimech** » 04 Aug 2010, 03:09

Good one Nick.

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 04 Aug 2010, 03:46

Nick H wrote:While you're all at school, let me amuse you with this absence note:

Dear Teacher. Johnny can't come to school today as his dad is ill and the pig has to be fed.

Perhaps you mean the dad is a pig, but.....
Was that note signed by the real pig? With her lipstick?

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 04 Aug 2010, 04:26

If I were Miss Piggy, I would act an ostrich

mankuthimma · Post by **mankuthimma** » 04 Aug 2010, 08:45

While you're all at school, let me amuse you with this absence note:
Dear Teacher. Johnny can't come to school today as his dad is ill and the pig has to be fed.

Let me amuse you with this absence Phone call , on a Monday :
Voice : Dear Miss ,My son, Johnny, has been unwell over the weekend and so will not be able to come to school today.
Miss : Ok.Take care. And How is our little Johnny today ?
Voice : I am fine today and getting better.

kssr · Post by **kssr** » 04 Aug 2010, 10:56

MOD: Kindly tag this string to the Hilarity section, please.

MK: Pleeeeese, do not provoke such hilarious threads, the next time you see anything about the A Grade and Madam.

bhavarasa · Post by **bhavarasa** » 04 Aug 2010, 23:51

@MK: How can we be certain that the pig was a she?

@Nick: How can we adapt "Little Johnny" to a situation where a vocalist is offering up an excuse for not being able to perform at a concert?

Hmmm.... maybe kssr is right, we should move this entire thread to the Hilarity in Kutcheris discussion. It's getting out of hand.

mahakavi · Post by **mahakavi** » 05 Aug 2010, 01:44

bhavarasa wrote:@MK: How can we be certain that the pig was a she?

Ask Sarah Palin.

ragam-talam · Post by **ragam-talam** » 05 Aug 2010, 02:00

What's happening here? I go away for a while, and you have all gone helter-skelter.
Now look here, if you don't behave, I will report you all to Madam. Yes, and that applies to each of you: mk, bhavarasa, kssr, mankuthimma, nick, ksrimech, even you arasi!

sramesh - I am the only obedient one here, I will help you to report all these naughty people.

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 05 Aug 2010, 02:09

ragam-talam wrote:I will report you all to Madam. Yes, and that applies to each of you: mk, bhavarasa, kssr, mankuthimma, nick, ksrimech, even you arasi!

You didn't know? Arasi is Madam!