Murali (Krishna) Kauthuvam lyrics needed

[Natyamritam]

Help!! Does anyone out there have the lyrics for
Murali (Krishna) Kauthuvam? Thank you,
Natyamritam

[madhan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_eOjLvGhWY is this the song??

[VK RAMAN]

madhan - thank you for sharing that video. Ecstatic indeed.

[madhan]

U r welcome.. the choreo is also by shri.muralidharan himself, if im right.. performed by students of Smt.Deepa Mahadevan, Fremont, CA.

[ksl]

Not sure about the video but this is how i was taught:

ayar kulathinil aanirai meithavan
aadiyum paadiyum koodi magizhndavan
anandam anandam anandam aanavan
aaLil tuyilbavan avanadi panivom

karamalar tanil oru venkuzhal endiya, karmugil varna, kamsa samhara

kalinga nartanamadiya sevadi, naadi nalam tuyar odi olindhidum

vinnum vizhigaladil minnum ninadhazhagu, mannai tindra siru balagane
yashodai manamagil madhavane, kuselan tuyar tanai teerthavane
mayavane madhusudanane, tuyavane, tirumalavane
taka dhiku thaka ena arumarai potridum
thiru muralidhara kavitvame

I also doubt if that is the original choreography by Muralidharan sir as
a. It is a group choreo
b. I am not sure there are supposed to be jatis with shollus in a kautuvam

[ksl]

i think i missed a stanza and jumbled the order..i shud practice more often

1. ayar kulathinil..
2.karamalar...
3. kalinga..
4. unnai yendra arul annai manamagizha vennai unda siru mayavane
5. minnum..

[madhan]

I also doubt if that is the original choreography by Muralidharan sir as
a. It is a group choreo

well.. it might not be..!! i told so bcoz i remember seeing muralidharan sir's students doing something very similar to wat is shown in the video..!

[ksl]

You may be right madhan. I think personally i will be surprised if it is an original choreo. Because the solo choreo might have been modified for the group..which is still fine...but presence of jathis in a kauthuvam is not the format of traditional kauthuvams..

[madhan]

Shri Muralidharan's FAMOUS shadakshara kavuthuvam also has jathis...! Also all the navasandhi kavithuvam's have a short jathi at the end..!

[Umesh]

Sri Muralidharan has provided the nattuvangam for the recording so it has to be his arrangement. Deepa Mahadevan is his student, so the choreography is most like a group adaptation of the original solo.

[madhan]

Yes I agree with Umesh...!!

[Natyamritam]

Yes a big thank you to ksi for the lyrics, that's fantastic. I still need the
word-for-word transliteration, maybe someone has that as well.
Madhan you posted the video clip. Here is another you tube link, very creative choreography by Sri V. Balagurunathan - it starts at 5:04:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsrN0UHJhP8
And Pratyaksham Bala, I will search out Sri Madurai R. Muralidharan on the website, thanks for info.

[ksl]

You mean word to word meaning? Transliteration is just writing words in any language in english phonetics.

[Natyamritam]

Yes ksi word-for-word, I meant translation not transliteration

[ksl]

ayar kulathinil anirai meithavan
the one who grazed cows in the family that traditionally did cowherding
ayar-cowherding
kulathinil-in the family of
aanirai-cows
meithavan- the one who helped graze

aadiyum paadiyum koodi magizndavan

aadiyum-the one who danced
paadiyum-the one who sang
koodi -together with everyone
magizhndavan- happily, that person

anandam, anndam, anandam - happiness
aanavan- the one who was personification of

aalil - in the leaf
tuyilbavan- teh one who sleeps (as a kid he is depicted sleeping on a peepel leaf)
avan adi- his feet
panivom- lets worship

karamalar- lowers that were his hands
tanil- in them
oru venkuzhal- one flute
endiya- the one who carried
karmugil varna- darkcloud colored
kamsa samhara- the one who killed kamsa (the evil uncle)

kalinga nartanam- the dance on top of kalinga
aadiya-performed
sevadi-that feet (of krishna)
naadi nalam- i seek goodness in
tuyar- problems
odi-run
olindidum- and vanish

unnai- (the one who nurtured )you
endra- nurtured
arul annai-blessed mother
manam- heart
magizha- u caused to be filled with joy
vennai - (when u ate) butter
unda-ate
siru-you tiny
mayavane- scoundrel

minnum - sparkling
vizhigaladil- eyes of mine in which
minnum-sparkles
ninadazagu- your beauty
mannai-mud
tindra-the one who ate
siru balagane- you, the small kid

yasodai manamagil- yashodas sweetheart (the one who fills her heart with happiness literally)
madhavane-that madhava
kuchelan-kuchela's
tuyar tanai- grievances
teertavane- u took away
mayavane- the one who is very mischevous
madhusudhanane- another name for krishna
tuyavane-the one who is pure
tirumalavane- the one who is tirumal (vishnu) himself
taka dimi taka endru- just some shollus, thus
aru marai potridum- the one extolled in vedas
tiru muralidhara- the signature of the kavi, madurai muralidharan written
kavithvame- poetry this is.


i might be wrong in some details but overall its pretty close.

[rshankar]

KSL - very nice. Some minor corrections/additions:
kulam (kulattinilE) - (in the) clan/dynasty
mAyavanE - illusionist
Alilayil - Ala = banyan, ilaiyil = on the leaf (krishNa is typically represented as lying on a large banyan leaf, with his toe in his mouth - one verse from the mukundAshTakam describes the sight of the little krishNa sleeping on the leaf - vaTasya patrasya puTE Sayanam - karAravindEna padAravindam, padAravindEna mukhAravindam...
vENkuzhal - vEyunkuzhal - vEy - bamboo; kuzhal - flute
Indra (eendra) - one who gave birth/brought forth (which is a misnomer/poetic license here, because yaSOda only nurtured him)
yaSOdai manamagizh
mAdhavan - mA - lakshmi, dhavan - husband (of)
madhusUdananE - madhu - the evil demon madhu, sUdananE - one who killed/destroyed
aru marai - aru(mayAna) marai - the unique/special/rare/pre-eminent vEdas

[dnayar]

rshankar,

I was wondering, could it be 'aazhi thuyilpavan' ? (the one who sleeps on the ocean )
I recently choreographed this kauthuvam, and I was almost positive i heard the singer say 'aazhi'
does it make sense grammatically?

[rshankar]

Divya - you are correct, it can very well be Azhi tuyilbavan - one who sleeps on the ocean (pArkkaDalin alaigaLumE manjamAi viLanga as another poet says)..since Azhi also means discuss in tamizh, vishNu can be described as 'Azhi Endi Azhi tuyilbavan'

[arunk]

I think the word is Azh => deep => sea/ocean. Discus => Azhi.

Azhi tuyilbavan: Azhil tuyilbavan makes for easier interpretation. Azhi Endi Azhil tuyilbhavan too.

But looks like Azhi can also be used for sea/ocean per lexicon. See lexicon http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philol ... 0.tamillex -

Arun

[Natyamritam]

Unbounded thanks to everyone but especially ksl for taking time & effort to type all this out. Here is a free rendering in English that I found
http://sridevinrithyalaya.voila.net/dvd2content.html
Such a beautiful song - my goodness.

[ksl]

@dnayar, rshankar and arunk

I thought sleeping in deep ocean would pertain to vishnu and not krishna. This is a krishna kautuvam. vishnu does not come into picture until the last stanza where he says tirumalavane.

[rshankar]

AFAIK, the attributes of krishNa and vishnu are used very interchangeably by most composers; krishNa is considered to be vishNu himself in Orissa - hence jayadeva's daSAvatAram does not include krishNa as an avatAr, so it is not unusual to have these mixed up in many compositions.

[ksrimech]

yESa nArAyaNAsSrImAn kSIrArNava nikEtanaha |
nAga paryankam utsRjya hyAgatO madurAm purIm ||

SrImannArAyanan, who has the milk ocean as His abode, left His serpent bed, SrI AdiSESa, and came down to mathurA nagarA as SrIkRSNan.

[ksl]

@rashankar: i just noticed your corrections. THanks. Where does indra come in? i didnt know madhavan meant ma+dhavan. Which again pertains to vishnu. I always thought madhavan was used for krishna. So, i am trying to reconcile things. Wikipedia says the following:

"Also in the Bhagavad-Gita, Arjuna address Krishna as "Madhava" (meaning "Lord of fortune and also slayer of the demon Madhu").[1]
According to Adi Sankara' s commentary on the Vishnu sahasranama, Madhava means the consort of Ma, or Mahalaksmi, the Mother of the universe. Alternatively, it means on who is fit to be known through Madhu-vidya or can mean One who is the Lord of "Ma" or knowledge.
Additionally, it can also mean 'one who was born in the clan of Madhu'."

So i guess everyone has their own interpretation.

Jayadeva was obsessed with krishna. I will ignore him. But i was wondering madurai muralidharan wouldnt write that way.,especially when its not a narayana kavitvam. But i guess things are open to interpretation unless we know what exactly he wrote.

[rshankar]

So i guess everyone has their own interpretation.
But i guess things are open to interpretation unless we know what exactly he wrote.

KSL - absolutely true - I always used to put a disclaimer that my attemps at 'translations' are my interpretation, and mine alone! WRT mAdhava - I have always gone with Sri Adi Sankara's interprettation, given my advaitic smArta background!

[Vindisha]

Hello all,

Can someone help to find, in which raga is this Kauthuvam?

[madhan]

Arabhi im guessing!