Meaning for padam: Ela oNTigA

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tyagarajadasa
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Meaning for padam: Ela oNTigA

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Could someone post meanings (and perhaps corrections for the lyrics) of this padam in punnAgavarali?

P: yala oNTigA ninu pommaNTinE EmandunE kAmini
A: gAli shankayu sOkinaTulanu dOcIni bAlarO dhurta gOpAluniNTiki
C1: cIkAku badi menu cikki rommaDara gElAguna taDabATu kaligenugA
cIkaTilO nalagA kaNDla baDi bAga nIkEmi tOcaka iTlu idivO vEga
2: nIvu iTu sOlucu niTTUrpu viDagAnE mOvi gAya muditarO cUDavE
kAvalenani iTlu karugu kondu vA nIvE avahincina tayya mA kramincinatO
3: vEvEga nanu gUDu dhUrta gOpAluDu AvArta gadAnaTTE maracinADA
Evaga dOcaka eTu cEseda jUDu nAvalanE nIvu kAvalenA

Thanks,
Gokul

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Re: Meaning for padam: Ela oNTigA

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: yala oNTigA ninu pommaNTinE EmandunE kAmini
A: gAli shankayu sOkinaTulanu dOcIni bAlarO dhurta gOpAluniNTiki
C1: cIkAku badi menu cikki rommaDara gElAguna taDabATu kaligenugA
cIkaTilO nalagA kaNDla baDi bAga *nInkEmi* tOcaka iTlu idivO vEga
2: nIvu iTu sOlucu niTTUrpu viDagAnE mOvi gAya muditarO cUDavE
kAvalenani iTlu karugu konduvA nIvE avahincina *dayya mAkramincinatO*
3: vEvEga nanu gUDu dhUrta gOpAluDu AvArta gadAnaTTE maracinADA
Evaga dOcaka eTu cEseda jUDu nAvalanE nIvu kAvalenA

{corrections in astericks}

Why did I send you alone? What can I say,my friend?[p]
After sending her to the outrageous gopala's house
It seemed as if she was under a spell, O maiden.[a.p]
Annoyed, looking worn out,breathless,somehow she is fidgetting.
In the dark,she was clearly seen by unconnected persons.Without
rhyme or reason,she is confused,behold her.In a hurry,[Why did I send][c1]
when you staggered,sighed deep,there was a wound on your lips.O my friend,observe.
knowingly, like this,would you waste away,as if possesed,or a demon has seized ? [c2]
outrageous gopala who joined me,in haste, has negated the news[of arriving] and forgotten?
Vexed,unable to find a way,what can I do? See, Do you want to be like me?

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Re: Meaning for padam: Ela oNTigA

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Thanks once again!

--Gokul

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Re: Meaning for padam: Ela oNTigA

Post by rshankar »

Smt. Savitri - thank you!
Reminds me of a tamizh padam, unnai tUdu anuppinEnE, ennaDI Accu - I have a vague recollection of translating it here before, but can't find it using the serach function.

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Re: Meaning for padam: Ela oNTigA

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Somewhat confusing with :

"you/why did I send you alone?"
"sending her to the outrageous Gopala.."
and "I/do you want to be like me" with the Gopala allusion.

Are there three people here being talked about? Can someone provide a gist ?

It seems clear that the narrator herself has had a bad experience with the "outrageous Gopala" so can't follow why the narrator laments -"why did I send "you" alone" to that same "outrageous Gopala" and then finally ask of this "you" - "do you want to be like me?"

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Re: Meaning for padam: Ela oNTigA

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smala Ji,
you are right. This is a dialogue between three people.

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Re: Meaning for padam: Ela oNTigA

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rshankar Ji,Thank you.
Regards

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Re: Meaning for padam: Ela oNTigA

Post by smala »

Thanks for confirming my understanding, Smt. Savitri. I would still like a gist.

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Re: Meaning for padam: Ela oNTigA

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In the pallavi a woman is regretting her action of sending a girl alone to gOpAlA’s house.

In the anupallavi she addresses another woman and explains the outcome of the girl’s visit.

In [c1] she explains how the girl looks.

In [c2] she addresses the girl and the other woman and asks if she would do this knowingly.

In [c3] the girl tells the other woman how gOpAla did not keep his promise and would she[the other

woman] want to be like herself.

The other woman is only a silent spectator.

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Re: Meaning for padam: Ela oNTigA

Post by smala »

Smt. Savitri, thanks for the clarification and the gist.

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