Beginning words/composer of this tillAnA

[Lakshman]

If someone can post the beginning words of this thillAnA and/or the composer's name it would be much appreciated. Thanks.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/3lmzs6

[Rsachi]

Lakshman ji
Its a lovely rendition.
The opening lines are the same as from the thillana played in Tjillana Mohanambal here

http://raa.ag/t158002

But in the movie the second part drifts into Kapi from Kanada.

I am also curious as to the Thillana words and composer...

[Rsachi]

Wow, I find there are many tillanas in Kanada
Ponnaiah Pillai
Ramnad Srinivasa Iyengar
Veene seshanna
Ariyakudi
Lalgudi
Also some misattributions? In SPriya?

[Rsachi]

Eureka voila, this is it:
Composer Lalgudi Jayaraman
Thillana in raga kAnaDA, Adi tala
tom dru tAni (t)

P: tom dru tAni tom dru tAni tana dhiranA taka dhIm tadAni

A: tana dhImta dhIm dhIm dhIm tadhIm takadhIm tajham jham jham tajham

tana dhImta dhIm tadhIm dhIm tadhIm takadhIm tajham tajham jham tajham

tana dhirana tadhIm dhIm tana dhirana taka dhIm dhIm tana dhirana takiTa

C: vaNNa malargaLaum vAnam mati ellAm kaNNan vaDivamE kaNNil teriyudE

maN aLanda mAyan manadil nirainda pin uNNavO kaN urangavO nAn ariyEn

tatana tatdhIm tanatatdhIm tanadhIm ma dha ni sa* ni pa ma ga ma ri sa

ri gA ma tadhImta tA ma dhA ni tajhamta tA ni sa* ri* tatOm tadhIm

tajjham takiTatAm tAm tAm ta tajjham takiTa

tOm tOm tOm tatajham takiTa dhIm dhIm dhIm

Listen here:
http://raa.ag/t227840

Red: my correction to lyric from lalgudimusic.com

[Rsachi]

Vocal rendition by s P Ramh
http://www.saavn.com/p/song/carnatic/Am ... zcpUj9aUAo

[Lakshman]

Thanks rsachi for your efforts. Much appreciated.

[Rsachi]

Lakshman ji you're welcome! Only thing my folks can't figure what I do so late at night!

[Ranganayaki]

Sorry I didn't see this question earlier.. I am a little surprised that this song is not instantly familiar to you stalwart rasikas.. It appears in the first set of Lalgudi Tillanas that ever came out: the famous Dance of Sound disc that is played everywhere as background music.

[Rsachi]

Ranganayaki, good observation!
That it was used in thillana mohanambal was a misleading bit, given that the movie is set in an older time frame than Lalgudi's composing years.
But I slowly reconstructed the Lalgudi pidis and worked back.

The long intro music on the LP track is also a bit misleading as it is not pure Kanada.
My guess is that the recall success is not as high as for Desh or Behag or Maand or Pahadi. Or Mohana Kalyani or yamuna Kalyani.
Do you agree?
The exercise from first listen to MUS to my final post was about an hour long.

[Ranganayaki]

Ranganayaki, good observation!
That it was used in thillana mohanambal was a misleading bit, given that the movie is set in an older time frame than Lalgudi's composing years.
But I slowly reconstructed the Lalgudi pidis and worked back.

Yes, it did not appear in Tillana Mohanambal.. There was no Lalgudi music in that movie. Impressive work and timing

My guess is that the recall success is not as high as for Desh or Behag or Maand or Pahadi. Or Mohana Kalyani or yamuna Kalyani.
Do you agree?

I am unable to agree, not because I disagree, but because I don't know.. For me, any Lalgudi tillana that I've heard would be instantly recalled because I'd have listened to it a zillion times . It's almost like there is no recall at all, it's like remembering a family member or something you have always known.. you don't have to RECALL. It all lives in my heart .

[Rsachi]

Did you listen to the Thillana Mohanambal link I gave?

Ok. Let's have a game.

How many Lalgudi Tillana tracks do you have?

[Ranganayaki]

I am sorry - I sometimes get carried away and don't read fully.. I only listened to the Mandolin Srinivas track. I only responded to that one and the original question and your search.

Does it really appear in Tillana Mohanambal? You might have got me there..

I came to this thread realizing while thinking about it that you may interpret my words as boasting. I didn't mean to boast, or say that I can recognize songs instantly.. I just meant to say that once I hear a Lalgudi tillana, I love it so much that I listen again and again and it becomes very familiar, so familiar that it is like recognizing the Ninnukori Mohana Varnam.

So I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. I will check this MOhanambal track right away.

[Ranganayaki]

How many Lalgudi Tillana tracks do you have?

Not sure why you ask but actually I don't have any. I listen to music only on the internet. My sound system is equal to that of my laptop. A bit sad, but that's how it is.

My ipod locked itself and locked me out, so I had some 1000 misc. tracks on it, with a couple of hundred lalgudi tracks.. that's about it. My phone lets me listen to carnaticradio in the car. So if I am lucky, they will have a nice concert that I want to listen to.

I don't have all those terrabytes you all have accumulated.

To T. Mohanambaal now..

[Rsachi]

No no. Nothing to argue about

[Ranganayaki]

RSachi, I listened to that piece (with difficulty - had to use music india online) and I'm afraid it is not the same piece at all. The very first pallavi line itself ends differently.. if you check the anupallavi in both you will find that they are completely different.

I am so glad.. I doubt that Lalgudi Jayaraman would have allowed his piece to be played in that manner..

[Ranganayaki]

TM the movie came out in the sixties.. probably the late sixties. I don't know if the kaanada tillana was composed before the movie, I doubt it. I wonder if anyone knows. Not that it changes anything, as there is no doubt that it is not the same tillana. I don't even think it is Kaanada.. apart from the bhava being absent, the ni seems to be different. I could be wrong, but can someone tell for sure what raga it is? (in the nadaswaram piece)

Also, I think there could be some problem with the USrinivas file I downloaded to listen .. please check it, Sri Lakshman and let me know. I had immediate problems, but I'm ok now. If it is not the file then it is the doing of sendspace.. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I really wanted to re-listen more carefully to USrinivas's Kaanada, in the light of RSachi's comment, but I don't want to download it.