Nominate your choice for the #1 Instrumental piece in Carnatic music!
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uday_shankar
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The RTP in Mukhari from Chitravina Ravikiran's album "Kaarunyam" is worth dying for. Here's an excerpt from the initial portion of the alapana, accompanied by Sriram Parashuram. I couldn't find an online version of the whole thing and scratching my head about copyright etc as to uploading it somewhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEbQsND598Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEbQsND598Y
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Rsachi
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Is this the track? All my search shows only an 8:12 long track and it costs Rs 12 for a purchase and download at iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/in/album/ragam ... =608596459
I was able to find it in some other pirate site also.
https://itunes.apple.com/in/album/ragam ... =608596459
I was able to find it in some other pirate site also.
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hnbhagavan
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Friends,
This is the one i have come across in the internet.Great violin by Sri Lalgudi Sir.
https://sankirnam.wordpress.com/2013/04 ... jayaraman/
This is the one i have come across in the internet.Great violin by Sri Lalgudi Sir.
https://sankirnam.wordpress.com/2013/04 ... jayaraman/
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K Nagarajan
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My choice is ''rAma_bhakti_sAmrAjya-shuddhabangALa_tyAgarAja'' by MSG.
Traditional yet very innovative; playful yet serious.
This can be found in Sangeethapriya.
This is the third item in the concert uploaded by Kasturi Mambalam.
http://www.sangeethamshare.org/kasturi/ ... a_hindOLa/
Traditional yet very innovative; playful yet serious.
This can be found in Sangeethapriya.
This is the third item in the concert uploaded by Kasturi Mambalam.
http://www.sangeethamshare.org/kasturi/ ... a_hindOLa/
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varsha
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https://archive.org/details/07RAgamTAna ... anasAranga
The Pied Piper , ignored by the mass at Mecca
KSG-AK-GD
The Pied Piper , ignored by the mass at Mecca
KSG-AK-GD
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Rsachi
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We have 36 tracks so far. Not very impressive indeed.
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matterwaves
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TR Mahalingam's concert with Chembai and Maharajpuram should be one of the best pieces of instrumental music recorded ever.
The Bhairavi RTP below comes very close too. Palghat Mani in devastating touch.. ufff.. I was left gasping!
http://nmanojsiva.blogspot.com/2014/09/ ... am_50.html
Pretty Good sample of best of Mali music
The Bhairavi RTP below comes very close too. Palghat Mani in devastating touch.. ufff.. I was left gasping!
http://nmanojsiva.blogspot.com/2014/09/ ... am_50.html
Pretty Good sample of best of Mali music
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Rsachi
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Shame on us that not a single piece of music has been suggested yet from THE MANDOLIN SHRINIVAS!
Here is one:
https://youtu.be/fApXlsTqtUs
Here is one:
https://youtu.be/fApXlsTqtUs
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varsha
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Raat-Abhi-Baki-HaiWe have 36 tracks so far. Not very impressive indeed.
Baat-Abhi-Baki-Hai
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Rsachi
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Dil Abhi Bhara Nahin
Waqt Guzar Raha Hain
Waqt Guzar Raha Hain
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varsha
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varsha
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https://archive.org/details/RAgamTAnamPallaviKAmbhOji1
Words cant describe the effect this track produces
Words cant describe the effect this track produces
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varsha
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A bangalore track which was the request of our fellow-forumites at the concert venue,just before start
A tribute to sapthaswaras
https://archive.org/details/RAgamTAnamP ... aptaswaras
can put more , but for the laxman rekha of copyright issues / artists acceptance
A tribute to sapthaswaras
https://archive.org/details/RAgamTAnamP ... aptaswaras
can put more , but for the laxman rekha of copyright issues / artists acceptance
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K Nagarajan
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Ref Post 23 by Varsha
[https://archive.org/details/PAlincuKAmAkSi MadhyamAvati - LGJ Spl - With VR - HPR]
The krithi sounds like 'Rama katha sudha' - by Thyagaraja.
[https://archive.org/details/PAlincuKAmAkSi MadhyamAvati - LGJ Spl - With VR - HPR]
The krithi sounds like 'Rama katha sudha' - by Thyagaraja.
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varsha
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yes could be a case of error in tagging.will correct
thanks
thanks
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shanks
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That concert from 30 years ago at Music Academy to this day never fails to move me - the concert is an absolute gem from the beginning to the end.Varsha wrote: https://archive.org/details/RAgamTAnamPallaviKAmbhOji1
Words cant describe the effect this track produces
Another gem of a concert at the same venue two years prior - the pantuvarali and karaharapriya are memorable. Here are the links to the full length concerts
https://s3.amazonaws.com/shankarkrish/M ... 3+RAVI.mp3
https://s3.amazonaws.com/shankarkrish/M ... 4+RAVI.mp3
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varsha
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duplicated
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varsha
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Thanks.More of these nonstop tracks please !!
There are many great aspects to these.The most ghana of ragas handled in the most ghana of approaches , in a very ghana instrument by a very ghana vidwan.Flow of thoughts (mine as a listener,too) not interrupted by the violin ( no judgements being made here )
The sight in the 80s was a treat in itself .
My Dad used to admire exclaiming " People talk of GNBs ladder like approach to alapana . With this kid it is like climbing a hill to reach our diety.Making one approach.Then another .A pause to catch the breath , the darshan , and the canter , back to the plains (ragamalika).
Pure bliss that envelopes me again and again .Over decades.Classicism at its best
There are many great aspects to these.The most ghana of ragas handled in the most ghana of approaches , in a very ghana instrument by a very ghana vidwan.Flow of thoughts (mine as a listener,too) not interrupted by the violin ( no judgements being made here )
The sight in the 80s was a treat in itself .
My Dad used to admire exclaiming " People talk of GNBs ladder like approach to alapana . With this kid it is like climbing a hill to reach our diety.Making one approach.Then another .A pause to catch the breath , the darshan , and the canter , back to the plains (ragamalika).
Pure bliss that envelopes me again and again .Over decades.Classicism at its best
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Narayanan NB
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MSG's nattaikurinji RTP especially the elongated madhyamam in the alapnam, TNK's accompaniment for ramnad krishnan for maakelara vicharamu, lalgudi accompanying for MMI for ramabhakti samrajyam, TNK's rendition of bhairavi in the mandhra sthayi in one of his lec demonstration on bhairavi
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varsha
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https://archive.org/details/IMMORTALSROKES
best viewed by dowloading and play using a time lag between audio and video
Will be nice if a laya expert tells me exact = or - seconds
brilliant camera work
best viewed by dowloading and play using a time lag between audio and video
Will be nice if a laya expert tells me exact = or - seconds
brilliant camera work
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shankarank
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Video is ahead by less than a second - will need to play it slow motion to tell exactly.
This korvai by Harishankar has a good reduction
ta-ti-ta ( 6) ( kidatakatarikita (4) - tom(2)) = 12.
12 + 10 + 8 ( ta - ti -ta ) in lower kAla for the prefix. Then on higher kala sollu 6 5, 4, 3 ( kidatakatarikita (4) - tom(2)) in = 48
then a 1 ( short tom) + 15 + 1 + 15 + 1 + 15 = 48 -
Total 96 mAtras.
tiSra conversion 96 * (2/3) = 64 will span one Adi tAla 2 - kaLai avarta ( 6 (takitatakita) *16 = 96).
So two times in catuSra nadai and 3 times in tiSra nadai = 96+96+64+64+64 = 384
Since this is miSra tripuTa ( 7 + 4 - in this case 22 akshara for 2 kaLai) - with 1/2 idam ( or 1/2 akshara offset) - he begins the korvai half akshara into the dRtam ( 32 matRas left in the cycle if counted from arudhi samam) . for 22 Akshara tAla you have 88 mAtras in catuSra nadai.
so 32 + 88+ 88+ 88 + 88 = 384.
For Adi talam it can be played twice ( 96+96 = 64+64+64 3 Avartas ) from samam in catuSra nadai and 1 or 3 times in tiSra nadai since one tiSra nadai occupies exatcly one Avarta (64).
And he does that here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_33FkETjQoc
This korvai by Harishankar has a good reduction
ta-ti-ta ( 6) ( kidatakatarikita (4) - tom(2)) = 12.
12 + 10 + 8 ( ta - ti -ta ) in lower kAla for the prefix. Then on higher kala sollu 6 5, 4, 3 ( kidatakatarikita (4) - tom(2)) in = 48
then a 1 ( short tom) + 15 + 1 + 15 + 1 + 15 = 48 -
Total 96 mAtras.
tiSra conversion 96 * (2/3) = 64 will span one Adi tAla 2 - kaLai avarta ( 6 (takitatakita) *16 = 96).
So two times in catuSra nadai and 3 times in tiSra nadai = 96+96+64+64+64 = 384
Since this is miSra tripuTa ( 7 + 4 - in this case 22 akshara for 2 kaLai) - with 1/2 idam ( or 1/2 akshara offset) - he begins the korvai half akshara into the dRtam ( 32 matRas left in the cycle if counted from arudhi samam) . for 22 Akshara tAla you have 88 mAtras in catuSra nadai.
so 32 + 88+ 88+ 88 + 88 = 384.
For Adi talam it can be played twice ( 96+96 = 64+64+64 3 Avartas ) from samam in catuSra nadai and 1 or 3 times in tiSra nadai since one tiSra nadai occupies exatcly one Avarta (64).
And he does that here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_33FkETjQoc
Last edited by shankarank on 03 Apr 2016, 21:35, edited 2 times in total.
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varsha
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ThanksVideo is ahead by less than a second
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semmu86
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https://archive.org/details/04Bantureethi
S. Balachandar MSG UKS... Another eternal favorite of mine. Circa 1960, Krishna Gana sabha, Chennai.
S. Balachandar MSG UKS... Another eternal favorite of mine. Circa 1960, Krishna Gana sabha, Chennai.
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sureshvv
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Here is an exquisite interlude that floated me right off my seat:
https://soundcloud.com/carnaticdude/violin
https://soundcloud.com/carnaticdude/violin
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bilahari
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Shanks, thank you for those sublime Ravikiran concerts. What a pantuvarALi, Ananda bhairavi, kharaharapriya, kEdaragowLa, and kAmbOji! On the subject, Ravikiran's elaborate rendition of mAyamma in ahiri at the MA a few years ago stands in my memory as one of my favourite instrumental pieces. http://www.sangeethamshare.org/tvg/SEAS ... ITRAVEENA/
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sureshvv
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@bilahari... what do you think of https://soundcloud.com/carnaticdude/violin ? Fantastic 2 minutes, don't u agree?
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bilahari
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Suresh, what an awesome bahudAri passage! Who is the violinist? Such clean technique in both fingering and bowing - with the glides, I detected a fair bit of a Parur influence and thought maybe HNB, though I haven't heard him enough. I know the purists say that alapanai-like flourishes should be avoided in kalpanaswaras, but how beautiful were 00:12 and 1:13-1:23?
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MaheshS
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Is the violinist MA Sundaresan by any chance?sureshvv wrote:@bilahari... what do you think of https://soundcloud.com/carnaticdude/violin ? Fantastic 2 minutes, don't u agree?
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sureshvv
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@bilahari @MaheshS Glad I have your curiosity piqued
Shall wait for a couple of other guesses before I announce the violinist.
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sureshvv
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The violinist is Charumathi Raghuraman, Have updated clip to show that.
What goes on between 1:07 and 1:10? Is that bowing or fingering? Is there a name for that? Something like a motodrome effect. Have heard something similar on veena concerts also.
What goes on between 1:07 and 1:10? Is that bowing or fingering? Is there a name for that? Something like a motodrome effect. Have heard something similar on veena concerts also.
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bilahari
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Of course it was Charumathi! Ought to have known that given how many of her solos I've seen, but I got distracted by how Parur-esque the content of the swaras was. 1:07 to 1:10 is mostly fingering I think - patterns along the lines of P,NP - N,SN - S,GS - onwards up the scale played with increasing volume (this was probably modulated with increasing azhuttam in bowing). I couldn't really make out the exact swaras because the volume was initially too low when she starts in the D string.
I love violin interpretations of this ragam.
Here's MSG giving it his folksy touches, bringing out the sheer brightness of the ragam:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/xhd41l
And her guru, TNK, treats the ragam with his usual seriousness and clarity:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/4n3bas
I think Charumathi is well on her way to evolving her own technique, if she hasn't already. She has the TNK touches of full length bowing and the clear tone, but she employs a lot of seemingly Rajam/Parur-esque fingering touches rather than the vINa-esque hard stops TNK prefers. Very neat.
I love violin interpretations of this ragam.
Here's MSG giving it his folksy touches, bringing out the sheer brightness of the ragam:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/xhd41l
And her guru, TNK, treats the ragam with his usual seriousness and clarity:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/4n3bas
I think Charumathi is well on her way to evolving her own technique, if she hasn't already. She has the TNK touches of full length bowing and the clear tone, but she employs a lot of seemingly Rajam/Parur-esque fingering touches rather than the vINa-esque hard stops TNK prefers. Very neat.
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advaitin
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minisantu
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srikant1987
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Here is a concert by Shri Trivandrum Venkataraman with Shri Kamalakar Rao
http://www.sangeethamshare.org/vijayago ... kataraman/#
The rAgamAlika tAnam after the main (TRV often played that
) ...
The choice of the rAgams is itself so awesome -- and the traditional aesthetic of bring out the rAgam right away is so exciting!
http://www.sangeethamshare.org/vijayago ... kataraman/#
The rAgamAlika tAnam after the main (TRV often played that
The choice of the rAgams is itself so awesome -- and the traditional aesthetic of bring out the rAgam right away is so exciting!
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varsha
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hnbhagavan
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Varsha,
Thank you.A brilliant violin duet by young Akkarai sisters.What great patience you have to record and store the program.
Thank you.A brilliant violin duet by young Akkarai sisters.What great patience you have to record and store the program.
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shanks
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https://archive.org/details/054MSG
First 48 minutes only
MSG with Tiruchi Sankaran during his 70's US tour
First 48 minutes only
MSG with Tiruchi Sankaran during his 70's US tour