Locals understand only English nowadays - I may have better luck!sureshvv wrote: ↑21 May 2018, 10:47WTF? Aren't we all speaking in English? Or are you yelling at the screen in Tamil and Google is translating for you? That actually may explain a few thingsshankarank wrote: ↑21 May 2018, 09:33 Because he speaks in English? Someone speaks English, then it is to be respected as a view expressed to be discussed as a view bereft of the viewer
Locals are in awe of the gentleman. So I have better luck Arguing with him than with locals.
Actually locals were not saying CM is composition centric. Locals were also defensive about that only. But all they could say was our notes oscillate more in comparison with HM. Unfortunately they used English words "Composition" and "Composer" - means verbatim what is composed - except that even dIkshitar's works were written down 2 generations down only.
They called pApanAsam sivan as tamizh tyagarAja, because he used some similar tunes, but really could not understand why PS's compositions have a chance on the stage - while subrahmaNya bharathy's didn't? TMK at least has some clues - that the latter is not amenable to his musical abstraction it seems!
So locals never said to my knowledge that we are composition centric. They only said we are all dunces and vAggEyakkAras gave compositions only to explain the rAgA. They are all lakshana gItams or lakshana vaRNams or lakshana kritis.
But they left out an important part that syllabic intervals and relative stresses are also music and syllabic overlay over tALA produces music as well!
The Audience also clueless, including a sabha secretary from nanganallUR , who sat in KGS for TMK's concert accompanied by Nagai Muralidharan, TS and Srisundarkumar was saying - why there is need for uppapakkavAdyams when a senior Mridangist is there. Seconded by another oldie next to him!
Such were the dunces of the clueless civilization!