Composer for sivanai ninaintavar evar tAzhndAr ?

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kutty
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Post by kutty »

I have come across the following song in another site whose composer is unknown. Also the audio link is required as this is one of the oldest songs I hear about 40-50 years back:

rAgam: hindOLam tALam: Adi

pallavi

sivanai ninaintavar evar tAzhndAr? SadA
sivanai maRandavar evar vAzhndAr? (sivanai)

anu pallavi

mauna sittargaL mudal Sanaka munivargaL tam
vasattil anudinamum vasittaruLum parama (sivanai)

caraNangaL

1. mana bhayankaram koNDu amarar veruNDu vizha
maruTTi vanda viDattait tiraTTiyuNDu vembik
kanaittalaRiya deyvakkanniyargaL tirumaDangalattaic
suntaramisai nilaikkac sey taruL parama (sivanai)


2. sirittut tiripurattai erittazhittum takkan
sirattai aRuttiTTu azhaltanil ozhittum ahanga
rittu munivar viTTa varippuliyaikkonRu tOl
urittu iDaiyil taritta niruttanenum parama (sivanai)

3. irumbuttambattaic sellarittiDumO? nerup
piDaiyiRpuzhu vanduyir tarittiDumO? mana
varuttaminRik kaN malar patittup pUsanai seyda
mAlukku nEmi tantu bAvittu aruL purinda (sivanai)


1 ராகம்: ஹிந்தோளம் தாளம்: ஆதி
2
3 பல்லவி
4
5 சிவனை நினைந்தவர் எவர் தாழ்ந்தார்? ஸதா
6 சிவனை மறந்தவர் எவர் வாழ்ந்தார்? (சிவனை)
7
8 அனு பல்லவி
9
10 மௌன சித்தர்கள் முதல் ஸனக முனிவர்கள் தம்
11 வசத்தில் அனுதினமும் வசித்தருளும் பரம (சிவனை)
12
13 சரணங்கள்
14
15 1. மன பயங்கரம் கொண்டு அமரர் வெருண்டு விழ
16 மருட்டி வந்த விடத்தைத் திரட்டியுண்டு வெம்பிக்
17 கனைத்தலறிய தெய்வக்கன்னியர்கள் திருமடங்கலத்தைச்
18 சுந்தரமிசை நிலைக்கச் செய் தருள் பரம (சிவனை)
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20
21 2. சிரித்துத் திரிபுரத்தை எரித்தழித்தும் தக்கன்
22 சிரத்தை அறுத்திட்டு அழல்தனில் ஒழித்தும் அஹங்க
23 ரித்து முனிவர் விட்ட வரிப்புலியைக்கொன்று தோல்
24 உரித்து இடையில் தரித்த நிருத்தனெனும் பரம (சிவனை)
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26 3. இரும்புத்தம்பத்தைச் செல்லரித்திடுமோ? நெருப்
27 பிடையிற்புழு வந்துயிர் தரித்திடுமோ? மன
28 வருத்தமின்றிக் கண் மலர் பதித்துப் பூசனை செய்த
29 மாலுக்கு நேமி தந்து பாவித்து அருள் புரிந்த (சிவனை)

I have used Arun's editor for the Thamizh transliteration

Lakshman
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Post by Lakshman »

The composer is Papanasham Shivan.

mahakavi

Post by mahakavi »

http://arunk.freepgs.com/cmtranslit/editor.php

kutty:
If you use the URL cited above (refashioned by arunk from his older editor) you can type the English text right there in the box on the left all at once and then transform it to the particular language shown at right. This way you can avoid the numbers shown in your transliteration. You used the line by line transliteration which is laborious. Try the new URL and you will like it.

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Post by Lakshman »

The song shivanai ninaindavar used to be sung by Alattur Brothers. There used to be an audio clip of theirs on sangeethapriya.org. Not sure if it is still available.
Aruna Sayiram has sung it in the Season 2006 CD by CDW. Details below.
http://www.charsur.com/aspx/ProductDeta ... ductId=188

mahakavi

Post by mahakavi »

I have an EMI cassette 6TCS 038 6723 wherein nAmagirippETTai KrishNan has done a delightful nAdhaswaram piece on "sivanai ninaindavar".

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Post by sramaswamy »

Lakshman wrote:The song shivanai ninaindavar used to be sung by Alattur Brothers. There used to be an audio clip of theirs on sangeethapriya.org. Not sure if it is still available.
Lakshmanji is very correct. 6th song in the following link

http://www.sangeethamshare.org/kl/53-ALB-TNK-PMI/

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Post by grsastrigal »

Aruna Sairam also rendered this in Jaya TV Margazhi Utsav 2005 also- First song.

kutty
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Post by kutty »

Thanks to everyone for the info and Mahakavi for the latest editor of Arunk.

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Re: Composer for sivanai ninaintavar evar tAzhndAr ?

Post by advaitin »

Can someone give an explanation to the charanam?

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Re: Composer for sivanai ninaintavar evar tAzhndAr ?

Post by rshankar »

Which caraNam?

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Post by advaitin »

Hi Shankar

The first one at least. All would be a very welcome bonus

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Post by rshankar »

Ok! Will attempt - give me a day or so.

advaitin
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Hi Shankar

Thank you so much. Will look forward to it for sure

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Re: Composer for sivanai ninaintavar evar tAzhndAr ?

Post by rshankar »

Here you go - my attempt at providing the meaning of the first 2 caraNams. I can't make out some of the words in the last caraNam (third line in particular); if the words are clear, I will add it to the rest.

I have also translated the pallavi and anupallavi to provide the context for the caraNams.

By the way, I have made some changes to the lyrics based on how the composition has been sung.

pallavi
Sivanai ninaindavar evar tAzhndAr? sadA
Sivanai maRandavar evar vAzhndAr? (Sivanai….)

Has anyone (evar) who has meditated upon/thought of (ninaindavar) Siva (Sivanai) ever lost out (tAzhndAr) [1]? Has anyone (evar) who has always (sadA) forgotten (maRandavar) about Siva (Sivanai) [2] ever flourished (vAzhndAr)?

anupallavi
mauna siddhargaL mudal sanaka munivargaL tam
vasattil anudinamum vasittaruLum parama (Sivanai…)

(Has anyone ever lost out by meditating on the) supreme (parama) Siva (Sivanai), who resides (vasittu) in the possession/control (tam vasattil) of people starting with (mudal) realized souls (siddhargaL) who preserve a vow of silence (mauna) to sages (munivargaL) [3] such as sanaka, and showers blessings (aruLum) every day (anudinamum)?

caraNam 1
mana bhayankaram koNDu amarar veruNDu vizha
maruTTi vanda viDattait tiraTTiyuNDu vembik
kanaittalaRiya deivakkanniyargaL tirumAngalyattai
kantarmisai nilaikka seidaruL parama (Sivanai….)

(Has anyone ever lost out by meditating on the) supreme (parama) Siva (Sivanai), who:
- gathered up (tiraTTi) and swallowed (uNDu) the fearsome (maruTTi) poison (viDattai) that came (vanda) at him even as the gods (amarar) experienced (koNDu) fear (bhayankaram) in their hearts/minds (mana) and fell (vizha) in confusion and bewilderment (veruNDu), and therefore,
- made it possible (seidaruL) for the ‘tAli’ (tirumAngalyam) of the celestial (deiva) women (kanniyargaL) who were wailing loudly (kanaittalaRiya) in distress (vembi), to last permanently (nilikka) around their necks (kantarmiSai)?

caraNam 2
sirittut tiripurattai erittazhittu takkan
sirattai aRuttiTTu azhal tanil ozhittu ahamka-
ritta munivar viTTa varippuliyaikkonRu tOl
urittu iDaiyil dharitta niruttanenum parama (Sivanai…)

(Has anyone ever lost out by meditating on the) supreme (parama) Siva (Sivanai), called (ennum) the dancer (niruttan), who:
- burned down (erittu) and destroyed (azhittu) the three areal cities (tiripurattai) while smiling (sirittu)?
- cut (aRuttiTTu) daksha prajApati’s (takkan) head (sirattai) off and destroyed (ozhittu) it in (tanil) the sacrificial fire (azhal)?
- killed (konRu) the striped (vari) tiger (puliyai) that was sent (viTTa) to attack him by the egotistical (ahamkaritta) ascetics (munivar) [4], and skinned it (tOl urittu) and wore it (dharitta) around his waist (iDaiyil)?

FOOTNOTES
[1] tAzhndAr literally means coming down in life
[2] sadASivanai – can be one word, and not split up as I have done
[3] some people sing this as munivar instead of munivargaL
[4] refers to the 3000 egotistical ascetics from the taDavana (cidambaram) who created a tiger, snake, deer, battle axe, drum, muyalakan, and a ball of fire from their tapObalam to try and destroy the handsome youth (Siva) who they thought was leading their women-folk astray – Siva subdues the snake and wears it as an ornament, he holds the deer (mAn) and axe (mazhu), the drum (damaru) and the ball of fire in his hands, dances on muyalakan’s back, and kills and skins the tiger and wears its pelt around his waist

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Lakshman wrote:The song shivanai ninaindavar used to be sung by Alattur Brothers. There used to be an audio clip of theirs on sangeethapriya.org. Not sure if it is still available.
Aruna Sayiram has sung it in the Season 2006 CD by CDW. Details below.
http://www.charsur.com/aspx/ProductDeta ... ductId=188


Yes, indeed. Alathoor Bros' Gramaphone Record had : sivanai ninainthavar on one side and chandrasekhara eesaa ( sindu bhairavi) on the other side. We used to have this record in our home.

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Re: Composer for sivanai ninaintavar evar tAzhndAr ?

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Shankar

thank you so much. this helps a lot towards understanding and learning the composition. Highly obliged

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Re: Composer for sivanai ninaintavar evar tAzhndAr ?

Post by Lakshman »

I found out that this song is not by Papanasham Shivan but by Kavi Kunjara Bharati. It is available in his Skanda Purana Kirtana collection.

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