Sangita Kalanidhi-2008?

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 13 Jun 2008, 15:17

hari

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 13 Jun 2008, 16:18

What about voting by all music lovers of the world?of course a stupendous task. or a rotation policy . one year for vocal, one year for stringed instrumentalists and last but not the least,percussionists gobilalitha

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 13 Jun 2008, 16:19

sorry ,as usual a joker's intervention gobilalitha

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 13 Jun 2008, 16:36

I would have the award reserved for women for the forseeable future in honour not only of the great and worthy female recipients, but in honour of feminism the world over!

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 13 Jun 2008, 16:39

vgvindan wrote:How feminism of West - which considers sex at par with handshake - corresponds to Indian ethos?

As any of those women, feminist or not, might reply to you...

In you dreams

Sreeni Rajarao · Post by **Sreeni Rajarao** » 13 Jun 2008, 21:29

coolkarni wrote:If I were Head of MA , I would put up a Statue for the Unknown Music Teacher and give the award to a small town Carnatic Teacher from the remotest town , as a tribute to all those practitioners / exponents,teachers who have kept this tradition alive in a period when technology for dissemination was not so developed and were the ones to pollinate barren areas .
Like the teacher I knew In Davangere in the 70s, who was there simply because his son had got a transfer,and was so keen to enroll students in a HM stronghold.

Next opportunity, to the unknown mp3 converter.
On Behalf of future generations which will have terrabytes of music on their hard discs , and will never know whom to thank.

Exactly my thoughts! I don't think i would have said it as beautifully as Kulkarni Sir!

I salute the unknown teachers who passed on the music to the next generation!

And then, the marvel of technology!

Growing up in the midst of great music at home, I did not have neither the wisdom nor the technology to record and preserve all the great music and music related discussions I heard.

I can recall, in detail, several reminiscences, discussions and impromptu renditions my Father and his fellow musicians would delve into, sitting on the "katte' (front porch?) of our home, or in the verandah, over a cup of coffee. They would often recall a Vasudevacharya rendition or renact the body language of Tiger or Chikka Rama Rao or Bidaram, or get into in-depth discussions about musicology, ................
How I wish there was a way for me in those days to record and preserve all those precious moments!!

I believe the present day artistes and rasikas are both very fortunate that technology has enabled music and moments to be recorded, preserved and distributed.

Sreeni Rajarao

sureshvv · Post by **sureshvv** » 14 Jun 2008, 01:24

vgvindan wrote:
You could try some writings of Camille Paglia for a whole different perspective on feminism.
Let us shed this Western Oriented approach to any subject and try to find the good things - and bad things - about our culture which the west - thanks to greats like Vivekananda and Narayana Moorthy - have started realising.

I am sure you have heard of "Vasudheiva kutumbakam". Hope you don't feel that is just for western consumption!

VK RAMAN · Post by **VK RAMAN** » 14 Jun 2008, 01:33

sureshvv wrote:
vgvindan wrote:
Let us shed this Western Oriented approach to any subject and try to find the good things - and bad things - about our culture which the west - thanks to greats like Vivekananda and Narayana Moorthy - have started realising.

What is wrong with Western Oriented approach and accepting it if it is for the good of the community. Let us get rid all western stuff including our pants and shirts and wear panchkacham. Let us not copycat anything western including supporting western with software for $, Pounds, Mark and I am sorry you mean subject.

vgvindan · Post by **vgvindan** » 14 Jun 2008, 10:01

Let us get rid all western stuff including our pants and shirts and wear panchkacham. Let us not copycat anything western including supporting western with software for $, Pounds, Mark and I am sorry you mean subject.

tathAstu

vgvindan · Post by **vgvindan** » 14 Jun 2008, 10:21

I am sure you have heard of "Vasudheiva kutumbakam". Hope you don't feel that is just for western consumption!

When an American or any other Westerner comes to India, he is received with a red carpet, whereas, when an Indian goes to America or any other western country, he is treated as dogs. What about US embassies in India - they treat people like cattle.
They say 'when you are in Rome behave like a Roman'. But that seems to be applicable only to non-Romans - and not Romans - 'A Roman is Roman everywhere'
When are we going to shed this slave mentality?
Angarez chale gayE - angarEzi chod gayE

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 14 Jun 2008, 11:06

Govindan,
Really! Without angrEzi, how would we all communicate? Here on rasikAs and elsewhere in the world? In India too, if you could not speak any language except your own?
Moreover, we have an angrEzi among us who is well-liked and respected by all of us!

vgvindan · Post by **vgvindan** » 14 Jun 2008, 17:18

arasi,

how would we all communicate? Here on rasikAs and elsewhere in the world? In India too, if you could not speak any language except your own?

The very quote here is the definition of the term 'angarEzi' - a mental frame - it does not mean the English language. It is not against any individuals.

The Indian civilisation is considered one of the oldest civilisations - if not the oldest. That is five or more millenniums before English came to this land. We never had any problem of communication.

The scene before the US consulate in Chennai where people - elders - ladies - children - are made to stand on the platform in serpentaine queue for hours together in order to get access to the US Consulate is 'angarEzi'. Can't the US Consulate provide a shed for the people to sit inside their complex? No, they would not care - because we are slavish in our outlook.

Is such a scene possible in any Indian Consulate in US where Americans are made to wait on platform for hours together just to get access.

This is 'angarEzi' - a mental frame which make us look at them with awe.
enRu taNiyum inda sudandira dAgam - enRu madiyum engaL aDimaiyil mOham?
We still have not got true sudandiram - we are still slaves.

VK RAMAN · Post by **VK RAMAN** » 14 Jun 2008, 21:17

You have to see the Indian consulate general's office in U.S as to how the public flock to the gate from morning 4 am and the gate crash when they open the office. I believe the Indian Consulate may have good intentions to treat people right, but you can not plan for the moving target of people from one day to another. There the Indian officials treat the whites very politely but our own people are treated with disrespect. It is true of Air India too where the hostesses give special care with hospitality to the foreigners whereas passengers of Indian origin are looked at with despise IMHO.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 14 Jun 2008, 22:19

cakkani raja mArgamulunDaga sandula dUralEnE...
When my grandson was was three or so, he would ask before my reading a story to him: 'Is he a good guy or a bad guy?'. Agreed, good guys and bad guys there are, all over the world (granted, in varying shades and intensity of both qualities). To criticize one for where he comes from or what his ancestors did would make us all such cynics and however lofty we may think we are in our beliefs and in our living, it won't do--unless we MEAN 'maitrIm bhajata'...

vgvindan · Post by **vgvindan** » 14 Jun 2008, 23:31

arasi,
I have specifically mentioned that it is nothing about the individuals.
The common observation everywhere in 'collective dealings' - not individual dealings - that we see the disdain for the brown. I agree that such disdain for brown is found much within our country too.

But why the brown doesn't show the same disdain towards white? Is it inferiority - understanding about 'vasudaiva kuTumbakam' - or maitrIm bhaja?

'vasudaiva kuTumbakam' and 'maitrIm bhaja' can exist only among equals. Jesus' saying 'show the other cheek' may not be applicable between a master and slave. It is possible and understandable only among equals.

I am asking - where is the equality here? Then why this snobbish appreciation of west - even in matters of feminism? Are they torch bearers or what?

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 15 Jun 2008, 04:50

When we reject groups, we reject their values too. What does not apply to our values, we definitely can reject. How about the positive aspects--values of each country, each culture? A group is made up of individuals. So, individuals do count (little drops of water...).
It is possible that some of us here who belong to more than one country do not understand the indian qualities that are discussed here. Because of our ignorance of course, but we respect good values wherever we find them. I don't think those in India who live in cities reject good drinking water which comes from a nearby lake because it is not the water their ancestors drank from in their villages--kAvEri, tAmra varNi or gOdAvari.
If I think I am equal to any other, then I should treat others as my equals-and should not carry a chip on my shoulder thinking how we were treated as slaves once upon a time.
When I hear some visitors from India bragging that their children and grandchildren do much better here than american kids which includes indian children born here, because they aver ' who in the world is as bright as an indian'? If the western countries are lands of fools, why
is it that they aspire to come here? Better education? Money? Definitely not culture!
As for the seniors who wait in lines outside the embassy, it is tough, but may be they do not mind, because they want to come visit their children and grandchildren!

VK RAMAN · Post by **VK RAMAN** » 15 Jun 2008, 05:39

Well said arasi. Openminded approach to adopt and follow anything good irrespective of color, creed, and religion and faith is divine.

vgvindan · Post by **vgvindan** » 15 Jun 2008, 09:42

arasi,
The digression in this thread pertained to 'feminism' only. I have expressed my views on the subject.

When I hear some visitors from India bragging that their children and grandchildren do much better here than american kids which includes indian children born here, because they aver ' who in the world is as bright as an indian'? If the western countries are lands of fools, why
is it that they aspire to come here? Better education? Money? Definitely not culture!

Let us see the reverse side of it. What kind of values and attitudes the PIOs cherish? They have, by and large, hold aloft what they perceive to be the bright side of picture (and totally ignoring the darker side) and applying the same in reverse order here and passing judgements about this land - that applies to my daughter also.

When the westerners see how PIOs are enamoured by the (settled) countries, their disdain for this country and people become all the more pronounced.

I hold in high esteem people like nickH who have come to this land and cherish the values of this land. But nickH would not, surely be looking down upon his country and people.

Let us learn a lesson from that.

PS :

As for the seniors who wait in lines outside the embassy, it is tough, but may be they do not mind, because they want to come visit their children and grandchildren!

I reject the idea of standing in queue on the platform before US consulate in Chennai for hours together and answering those disdainful queries of staff of American consulate - a guest in my country treating me with contempt - and their Indian Coolies. I have refused to visit my daughter on this ground alone.

sureshvv · Post by **sureshvv** » 15 Jun 2008, 11:15

From the similar scenes between the Indian consulate abroad and the U.S. Consulate in India, it appears that the problem is with the people "flocking" outside the gates... May be we should take vgv's example and stay away

sureshvv · Post by **sureshvv** » 15 Jun 2008, 11:37

vgvindan wrote:Jesus' saying 'show the other cheek' may not be applicable between a master and slave. It is possible and understandable only among equals.

I am asking - where is the equality here? Then why this snobbish appreciation of west - even in matters of feminism? Are they torch bearers or what?

I don't believe Jesus attached any disclaimers to the "show the other cheek" philosophy. I am positive that inequality was more prevalent and perverse two millennia ago than it is now. In fact this philosophy is a rejection of "winning" over the opponent by becoming like them. I am sure you are not advocating that.

There was no snobbishness associated with recommending Camille Paglia. In fact if you had bothered to find out, she is quite an "anti-feminist" as feminism is bandied about in popular culture (including Times of India). To reject Camille Paglia's writings on feminism because the U.S. consulate does not proffer proper seating arrangements for the people waiting outside is a symptom of some inferiority/superiority complex IMHO. Pardon my arm chair analysis!

That said, in the general direction things are moving it appears that they are the torch bearers and we are the "theevatti" carriers.

VK RAMAN · Post by **VK RAMAN** » 15 Jun 2008, 21:19

Blinded and disabled because of anger towards something foreign - even to the extent of not wanting to visit the daughter - makes me sad.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 15 Jun 2008, 21:32

Govindan,
It is not that simple for us to understand us humans or our attitudes. That is why I suppose we criticize each other for our (may be non-existent ) attitudes.
My stand is, when 'us' and 'they' is at the base of everything we say, then we are not looking for the betterment of human kind. ellOrum Or kulam, ellOrum Or inam (we are all one creed, we are all one kind) is not a bad base to operate on. If we cannot think and try to act at least one little bit nobly, then we can be sure of living with our big and small prejudices and spread them around too. Easy for the coming generation too to pick them up and make it more difficult for them to live in this so called global community.
In a way, it is odd that while you stand up for your principles (commendable) by not subjecting yourself to the humility of standing in that line like a slave, your daughter's wish to spend some time with her dear father gets spurned. She may not be able to spend more than a couple of weeks with you. Of course, I am guessing! What do I know? From your stance, presumptuous as I am here, I also guess that you were no that keen on her leaving India to live abroad. I may be totally wrong, but it is all a guessing game by which we try to figure out each other's stand on things. I did not mean to get personal at all, but since you mentioned your refusing to stand in the line, I am spouting all this! While I admire your being highly principled, I do not know how it would change the world which needs a lot of principled people to make it a better place to live in.
While the way I am perceived--while it may not be pleasant--is not what is important. The way I go about dealing with my fellow beings as equals is what is important. What I wish for my family should also include the larger family out there.
The more I think of my freedom which excludes others, the more I would feel bound. Here, the word 'my' can also include my little family.
Enough of this. We on the forum unite in the love of music and I want to stay with that lovely thought and state of mind.

suresh,
Don't torch and tIvaTTi mean the same thing? Just a simple question. Take it into a philosophical realm? Light is light whatever the name, whichever language it is written in.

sureshvv · Post by **sureshvv** » 16 Jun 2008, 12:39

arasi wrote:suresh,
Don't torch and tIvaTTi mean the same thing? Just a simple question. Take it into a philosophical realm? Light is light whatever the name, whichever language it is written in.

True. Apologize for not being clearer

Probably what I meant was "viLakku pidikkaravan"!

Rengarajan · Post by **Rengarajan** » 16 Jun 2008, 15:43

I am really sad that even rasikas do not think beyond what is orchestrated to their mind by vested interests. Is there any companion for my suggestion to confer kalanidhi to the Clarionet maestro A K C Natarajan, a wholesome musician and instrumemtalists. He is from the genere af Alathur. Kalanidhi should also reach those deserving and living away from Chennai - especially Triplicane , Mylapore, T.Nagar.

Rengarajan · Post by **Rengarajan** » 16 Jun 2008, 15:55

I wish that our suggestion for Sangeetha Kalanidhi should reach the right
ears. Is there any one who would join me to suggest the name of A K C Natarajan a wholesome musician from Alathur Stable and who had made a mark for clarionet playing esp in the days and in the forefront when several nadaswara vidwans were iheir heydays. His concerts with Rukamani on violin and different artists for Mrudanga is green in my memory.He belongs to the generation next to Alathur Brothers. His programmes in Balaji TV in the mornings shall vouch for his calibre and after Isai Perarignar by Tamil Isai Sanagam, this is only title that is left which he richly deserves

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 17 Jun 2008, 10:51

Rengarajan sir, AKC Natarajan's name has already been suggested and discussed in this forum.

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 17 Jun 2008, 15:30

The very quote here is the definition of the term 'angarEzi' - a mental frame - it does not mean the English language. It is not against any individuals.

It seems that India always makes the best of what lands on its shores or crosses its borders, and it has done that with the English language too. Unfortunately, it is now the American language that India seeks to speek, and simply a different colonialisation which it seems to invite. The ravages of the East India Company will look amateur by comparison.

The Indian civilisation is considered one of the oldest civilisations - if not the oldest. That is five or more millenniums before English came to this land.

The current quality and condition of a civilisation cannot be measured by its age. If that were so, the world would probably be following Egypt, rather than America.

We never had any problem of communication.

Nonsense. There are problems of communication between people of different states even now. Even my teacher and his wife do not share a wriiten Indian language: both Telegu, one was taught to write in Tamil in Chennai, the other in Telegu in AP,

The scene before the US consulate in Chennai where people - elders - ladies - children - are made to stand on the platform in serpentaine queue for hours together in order to get access to the US Consulate is 'angarEzi'.

No. Actually it is a measure of how deparate those people are to get themselves or their sons and daughters away from India.

Can't the US Consulate provide a shed for the people to sit inside their complex? No, they would not care - because we are slavish in our outlook.

Well, you could write and ask them, but I doubt that you'll get far.

Is such a scene possible in any Indian Consulate in US where Americans are made to wait on platform for hours together just to get access.

OK... this time I expect I will have my post deleted by the mods, and fair enough --- but, you really don't have a clue what you are talking about, do you? Getting a tourist visa to India, in London, has always required hours of queueing, in the open, in cold, wet weather. And that includes all the elderly people of India origin, now British citizens, visiting their families.

(Actually the system has just changed. It has now been outsourced to a multi-national company. The queues may or may not be less --- but applicants will be charged extra for issuing a visa in 48 hours instead of half a day)

This is 'angarEzi' - a mental frame which make us look at them with awe.
enRu taNiyum inda sudandira dAgam - enRu madiyum engaL aDimaiyil mOham?
We still have not got true sudandiram - we are still slaves.

Well, yes... and perhaps you can imagine that I hate it if I find myself given 'favoured foreigner' status. My wife hates it too: "They wouldn't have done that for an Indian," she complains.

"angarEzi" --- surely you can do better than to borrow your terminology from another non-Indian laguage?

arasi wrote:Enough of this. We on the forum unite in the love of music and I want to stay with that lovely thought and state of mind.

That really should be the last word on all this!

vgvindan · Post by **vgvindan** » 17 Jun 2008, 16:47

nickH
The wearer knows where the shoe pinches.

sadananthan · Post by **sadananthan** » 17 Jun 2008, 18:07

Some time back I read an article written by John Higgins in a scholarly journal. We know that Higgins is regarded by CM fraternity as the "white avatar" of Narada Muni. In this article he clearly explains the plight of Carnatic musicians and their servile attitude towards a white man. He makes true observations of how, despite not being a brahmin or being of the highest calibre, he was accorded the greatest opportunities in Chennai and leading placement in thiruvayaru etc. I don't recall the journal name but it is a damning documentary on the system and its torch bearers. I am sure he wrote it for for the outside world and he knew very well that Carnatic musicians and sabha secretaries will never come to know of it. He had found that carnatic musicians hardly ever read! In their spare time either they play cards or watch cricket or gossip about others.

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 17 Jun 2008, 21:29

vgvindan
The listener knows when the shoe squeaks

vgvindan · Post by **vgvindan** » 17 Jun 2008, 22:07

nickH
Squeak of listener's own shoes exempted.

prashant · Post by **prashant** » 17 Jun 2008, 23:28

vgvindan wrote:When an American or any other Westerner comes to India, he is received with a red carpet, whereas, when an Indian goes to America or any other western country, he is treated as dogs. What about US embassies in India - they treat people like cattle.

Sri Govindan - with all due respect, have you ever been to any Western country [or for that matter any country at all other than India? From your above statement, I would guess you have not. From my travels to 30+ countries, I don't recall being treated like a dog, and last time I checked, I was Indian. Or perhaps, I'm too busy embracing Western culture, mores and literature while denouncing and forgetting Indian values to notice?

Then again, what do I know - this morning in Paris, I woke up early, read from nArAyaNIyam, sat at my breakfast table, bit into a wonderfully buttery croissant, wrote down notations for krishNAnanda mukunda murArE, ate lunch at an Italian restaurant, cooked sambar and rice for dinner and now will settle down to a Hindi movie with my wife who's half-Gujarati, half-TamBrahm, 100% Indian and 100% American too. This is my life and I wouldn't change a thing in it [except being able to speak better Gujarati and knowing more kritis in tODi - both of which I'm working on

]

Knowledge, appreciation and adoration of one's culture is a good and great thing. Your writings on tyAgarAjA and dIkshitar are standard reference texts on my laptop, and are fine examples of that, for which I have nothing but gratitude, admiration and respect for you. However, unkind and petty vilification of others' culture and opinions based on scant personal evidence is myopic. We're citizens of the world now, Sir.

vgvindan · Post by **vgvindan** » 17 Jun 2008, 23:42

prashant,
Thanks for your advice. In order to taste good food, one need not be a chef.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 18 Jun 2008, 01:08

So, Paris has the advantage of being home for the time being to one of CM's serious rasikAs and budding vocalists--and for votre cherie too? Amusez- vous bien and I am certain you are singing away, learning all the while...

prashant · Post by **prashant** » 18 Jun 2008, 02:21

vgvindan wrote:prashant,
Thanks for your advice. In order to taste good food, one need not be a chef.

Yes, but in order to truly appreciate the effort, understanding and love that has gone into good food, one needs to have some hands-on experience in the art.

Same goes for CM too, I guess

prashant · Post by **prashant** » 18 Jun 2008, 02:33

arasi wrote:So, Paris has the advantage of being home for the time being to one of CM's serious rasikAs and budding vocalists--and for votre cherie too? Amusez- vous bien and I am certain you are singing away, learning all the while...

Oui, arasi - je m'amuse tres bien, et ma cherie, elle utilise bien ses etudes en Francais. Nous n'avons pas parle en Anglais avec quelq'un pour 11 jours!

Sadly, vacation time is done and we are headed home this weekend. However, that means back to music practice next week, so hurrah for home!

sureshvv · Post by **sureshvv** » 18 Jun 2008, 11:43

vgvindan wrote:prashant,
Thanks for your advice. In order to taste good food, one need not be a chef.

Speaking in riddles seems to be a way of avoiding the critical points made in the debate. This is quite common in our culture (esp. religion) and drives me nuts

Nick H · Post by **Nick H** » 18 Jun 2008, 13:30

Leaving aside the riddles...

It has been mentioned by some as a criticism that SK is given only to older artists, sometimes, even to very old artists.

Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that the recipient presides over the Academy's season for that year, and is therefore required to be someone with a stature that is, at least percieved to be, achieved with age, and it should be someone that even very senior performers can be expected to accept as their senior, or at least equal.

Any truth in this thought?

sureshvv · Post by **sureshvv** » 18 Jun 2008, 14:11

Yep... I think SK is akin to a "Lifetime achievement award" for a performing artist. So usually it is given towards the end of such lifetime

thathwamasi · Post by **thathwamasi** » 18 Jun 2008, 22:32

Wow..such a long and lovely thread. Regarding Sangeetha Kalanidhi award issue, a lot of wonderful inputs and suggestions. I was especially interested in the posthumous awards. But the problem is if we start awarding posthumously, we should first begin with awarding the Trinity themselves.

I personally feel Ravi Kiran is a great choice. I heard it from the grapevine too that Trichur ramachandran has a good chance.

Regarding Indian culture related stuff, I am off the view that everything is going as per the Goddess's plan. Afterall its called as Time Cycle. Highs and Lows keep coming to the Land of Dharma which is natural. I strongly believe that nothing new can happen in this world (sounds very nihilistic may be) and history will just keep repeating itself but in different forms. Its interesting to note that the Carnatic Trinity and the Western Trinity were almost contemporaries and the focus on classical music on both these societies have gone down at the same time.

srikant1987 · Post by **srikant1987** » 18 Jun 2008, 22:43

Anyone thinks it could be Guruvayur Dorai this time?

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 18 Jun 2008, 23:25

Guruvayur Doai, a good choice but unlikely--not two mrudangists in a row.

semmu86 · Post by **semmu86** » 30 Jun 2008, 07:17

why not two mrudanga vidwans in a row??? high time academy starts giving the percussionists(pakkavAhya vidwans in general) their correct due....

trichy sankaran sir is a great choice

s_hari · Post by **s_hari** » 30 Jun 2008, 07:39

when is the MA meeting happening for deciding this?

-hari

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 30 Jun 2008, 11:20

nick H wrote:Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that the recipient presides over the Academy's season for that year, and is therefore required to be someone with a stature that is, at least percieved to be, achieved with age, and it should be someone that even very senior performers can be expected to accept as their senior, or at least equal.

Not only that, but also due to the fact that younger musicians can wait till the most important elderly musicians are honored thus, particularly as posthumous awards are not the rule in the Academy.

Posthumous awards do not quite seem to fit in the Indian tradition, awards are of value only to those alive...just MHO.

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 30 Jun 2008, 12:59

the general body meeting of Academy was slotted yesterday.

did it happen? any news? any decisions?

seldnplan · Post by **seldnplan** » 30 Jun 2008, 13:23

sadananthan wrote:Some time back I read an article written by John Higgins in a scholarly journal. We know that Higgins is regarded by CM fraternity as the "white avatar" of Narada Muni. In this article he clearly explains the plight of Carnatic musicians and their servile attitude towards a white man. He makes true observations of how, despite not being a brahmin or being of the highest calibre, he was accorded the greatest opportunities in Chennai and leading placement in thiruvayaru etc. I don't recall the journal name but it is a damning documentary on the system and its torch bearers. I am sure he wrote it for for the outside world and he knew very well that Carnatic musicians and sabha secretaries will never come to know of it. He had found that carnatic musicians hardly ever read! In their spare time either they play cards or watch cricket or gossip about others.

i have a pdf of this article if any one is interested. it's a pleasant read and not anywhere near as excoriating as one might gather from the quote above.

cacm · Post by **cacm** » 30 Jun 2008, 19:15

Dear seldnplan,
May I request you to send the pdf of Jopn Higgins article to: [email protected]? I knew him as well as the BACKGROUND ETC quite well & will be happy to write you by email PERSONALLY-not for public consumption etc- some details you might find interesting. Regs, vkv

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 01 Jul 2008, 08:12

The article by Jon Higgins appeared in the inaugural issue of Asian music. The complete reference is
Higgins, J. B. 1968. 'An American in Madras', Asian Music, 1, pp. 4-11.

If you have access to electronic databases like JSTOR or Project Muse you can view the article which details Higgins' first experience with Carnatic music and learning the art.

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 01 Jul 2008, 11:37

i N GOOD HUMOUR, Will the services of PERRYMASON OR TUPPARIYUM SAMBUbe required to solve the mystery of selection .gobilalitha