gAyathri VenkatarAghavan@PS High School on Jan 12th,2010

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 13 Jan 2010, 15:12

gAyathri VenkatarAghavan@PS High School on Jan 12th,2010
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Vocal : gAyathri venkatarAghavan

violin: padmashankar

mridangam : mannArkoil balAji

ghatam: Adambakkam shankar

Concert duration : 2 hours

1. tanjam enru?? "varnam" - AbhOgi??? - papanAsam shivan??
2. saTre vilagi(N,S) - poorvikalyANi - GKB
neraval in "paththiyil kaRai kaNdavan pArththup pArththu uNdavan" for 4 mins
swaras for 3 mins

3. Ananda naTana prakAsam (R,S) - kEdaram - MD
rAga alapanai for 5 mins and violin return for 3 mins
swaras for 2 mins
4. nee kElana - devamanOhari - Poochi
5. kamAkshi nEE (rAga sketch) - yadhukula kAmbOdhi - SS

6. yennEnru pughazhuvEN - kalyAni - ??
7A. chakkani rAja (R N S T)- kharaharapriyA - T
8 mins alApanai , 6 mins violin
7 mins neraval in "kaNtiki sundara tharamagu rUpavE" and 7 mins swaras
7B. tani for 11 mins

8. annAmalai thaNNilE annalai kanDAyO - like killikani (folkish) - ??
9 mAdhar pirai yANai - shenjuruTTi???- thevaram??
10. nee nAma rUpamulaku

This concert was organized by ananthaswami centre(the patron usually conducts concerts on bhagwan ramanar). GV started with a varnam I think it is AbhOgi ,the voice could have opened out little more and also the volume is bit muffled. The satre vilagi rendition with a neraval and swaras had more charm only in her krithi rendition to an extent the neraval and the subsequent swaras were not that expansive

THe pick of the day was her kEdaram , it was emotive and her diction was excellent , her preceding raga alApana was concise and aesthetically apt. The krithi had a very short burst of swaras it appeared she wanted to sing a neraval but later she changed her mind.

A rare devamanOhari was a fast filler and was quite good. The next swarajathi was perhaps the second best pick she rendered it very well . A rare kalyani unfolded with a bhagwan ramanar krithi and was quite good.

The main in kharaharapriyA had an alApana more centered on the jiva piDi's of the rAgA it was quite fast and well done . THe krithi was very good with the neraval and swaras had a very good finish. The last two were well done one was like killikani , a folkish number and the other was very brief . I wished her tukkadas were little more and absence of viruththam / slokham was felt.

Padma shankar had a very minimal play and returns only her kharaharapriya was prominent and she did play very well there. balAji did lifted the concert his anticipation and controlled aggression lifted the concert , also his aesthetics was very apt to the mood of the song. ghatam support could have been more expressive during songs but his tani play was quite good .

Few things to ponder by GV:
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Musicians must focus on both emotive quotient and to a great extent equally on the expansive quotient . Particularly felt GV excelling more in emotive side , would have loved the concert much more if there was more sangathis in both sub main and main to bring in more classical quotient.

Overall a very good concert for 2 hours.
BTW let me also debut the panic index score(this is just empirical based on what I wrote before) : 1

aDANA · Post by **aDANA** » 13 Jan 2010, 23:23

I guess the devamanohari krithi is nIkElanAyada nischalamu. I don think its rare. Its KVN's regular affair..

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Maheswari Venkitaraman · Post by **Maheswari Venkitaraman** » 14 Jan 2010, 04:04

wherever I go and listen Mrs. Gayathri Venkataraghavan"s concert I return with mental peace and lot of ideas. Maheswari

Dikshitar · Post by **Dikshitar** » 14 Jan 2010, 07:48

Just trying to understand/validate panic index with reference to this review. While the PI scrore is 1, the concert rating is "very good"- lets say 3 or 3.5 on a scale of 5.

1. Does it mean that a concert that is supposedly (according to PI) low on classical quotient can still pass off as a very good concert? On the contrary, a concert that has all the elements of CM in good proportions and comes out as a sub standard concert gets a PI of 5? I'm still struggling to understand what PI actually measures in the overall scheme of things.

2. Just like centigrade is a measure of temperature and can classify 40 degrees as a hot day and 5deg as a cold day, I would expect PI to be a measure of the overall quality of the concert taking into account elements like classsicm, pesentation and so on.

A few thoughts:

- Most concerts do not extend beyond 2 or 2.5 hours. To be able to present a comprehensive RTP, we need a min of 1 hour. Also we'd have to consider
factors like audience, venue and occasion.

The PI seems to be based on Ariyakudi's concert format. No doubt it is very successful today. But artists can certainly innovate the concert format and can end up having a successful concert. It might not contain all the elements in equal proportions, but still can be rated a highly classical concert.

While I do get your point and to an extent agree that the concert provides a wholesome experience when all elements are present in good proportions, there are practical limitations in adhering to this.

On a side note, its quite a snazzy term though I feel it needs more refinement to be put to use.

- V Shankar

kharaharapriyajanyam · Post by **kharaharapriyajanyam** » 14 Jan 2010, 11:35

Well, this concert looks nothing short of classicism nor does it lack continuity! Why the low panic index? This index is tricky I must say!

HarishankarK · Post by **HarishankarK** » 14 Jan 2010, 12:34

I think GV may not have been well during this particular concert because usually her alaapanaas are longer than these.

For any >= 2 hour concert Generally i feel a submain alapana shd at least be around 8-10 mins (this is usually the case and some artists give the submain raga alapana also same due as main raga alapana in some cases) and total submain duration should at least be 20 mins - here the alapana is around 5 mins only and the total Kedaram song duration is much less than 20 mins.

Again For any >= 2 hour concert, the general trend for Main item (RTP or big krithi) is minimum 45 mins (this sometimes extends upto 1.5 hours including tani) and raga alapana for main is usually around 12-15 mins - Once again here GV's alapana is falling short as it's only 8 mins (wonder why a very good and knowledgeable artise like GV should present that too a grand raga like Kharaharapriya that too for a master piece song like Chakkani for only around 8 mins - Am almost certain that she would not have been well or something like that.

Hence considering above factors as a unbiased opinion and based on numbers a slightly lower Panic Index is like justified.

My suggestion is to provide quantifiable parameters in terms of time as i have given in above example and also giving points to various items included in a concert like - Padam and Javali - 4 points and Shlokam and vriththam - 4 points etc and then get a total for each concert to arrive at a Panic Index if at all an index or a score is needed - Many will say music has indefinable qualities and parameters which cannot be capatured within these crude measurements. Agreed but since a idea on Panic Index has been started am only suggesting it to be made more tangible and measurable otherwise the index will not be accurate.

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 14 Jan 2010, 13:39

Harishankark and dikshitar and others
If we want to discuss more about panic index , bring it up in that thread
http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php? ... ex-p2.html

harishankar
I dont know if she was feeling well or not. She particularly told the audience that she wants rasikas to hear the tani after her main as there was this perennial 8pm mylapore exodus