KARNARANJANI

Sivaraman · Post by **Sivaraman** » 01 May 2006, 01:05

http://rapidshare.de/files/19295791/T.M ... i.mp3.html

SONG: YAMUNAI NADHIYE
COMPOSER: APPADURAI
RAGA: KARNARANJANI
22ND KARAHARAPRIYA JANYA
Aa: S R2 G2 M1 G2 P D2 S
Av: S N2 D2 P M1 G2 R2 S

PALLAVI:
Yamunai nadhiye kannanai kandaayo
Karmegavannan eyn innum varavillai
(Yamunai nadhiye)

ANUPALLAVI:

Veynkuzhalosaiyil emmai marandhom
eynga vaithu engey senran
(Yamunai nadhiye)

CHARANAM:

Vennai undavan mannaiyum undan
Vinnilor viyaka maayangal seydhan
Aayarpaadiyin arpudha selvan avan
Porpadham potri poojika vandhom
( Yamunai nadhiye)

vageyakara · Post by **vageyakara** » 23 Apr 2007, 15:26

Hallo sivaraman Sir, and ardent rasikas, Please spare a few minutes to view and listen to one of my creations in the raga Karnaranjani
"NEE DAYA KORITI NEERAJA LOCHANI" glorifying Alarmel Manga thayar.
Ramaraj Link: http://www.karnatik.com/c3512.shtml

shishyapriya · Post by **shishyapriya** » 23 Apr 2007, 22:47

Hello All,

Can someone provide the mp3 link for Yamunai nadiye?

kpk kutty · Post by **kpk kutty** » 22 Nov 2007, 13:24

Can someone provide the sahitya of Muthiah Bhagavathar's kriti in Karnaranjini that begins Vanchathonuna ...

meena · Post by **meena** » 22 Nov 2007, 13:29

http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=2817#p2817

vageyakara · Post by **vageyakara** » 22 Nov 2007, 18:40

Hallo CMLovers,
May I request every one of u to view and listen to one of my kritis in the raga karnaranjini and get back with ur valued views.This kriti is in praise of GODDESS ALARMEL MANGA
Ramaraj
Link ref:- http://www.karnatik.com/c3512.shtml

shishyapriya · Post by **shishyapriya** » 10 Dec 2007, 23:41

Friends,

I need the arohanam and avarohanam sung for this ragam. Can I find it anywhere on the web? Is there someone who can help me?

Shishyapariya

mohan · Post by **mohan** » 11 Dec 2007, 04:53

shishyapriya wrote:I need the arohanam and avarohanam sung for this ragam. Can I find it anywhere on the web? Is there someone who can help me?

Try the very first message in this thread

shishyapriya · Post by **shishyapriya** » 11 Dec 2007, 08:29

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 11 Dec 2007, 08:42

Shishyapriya: Sri Ramraj sir's ( vageyakara ) singing at http://www.karnatik.com/c3512.shtml will give you a pretty good idea. But if you still need the Arohana/Avarohana alone sung, then Sri. Ramraj is your best bet to see he will agree to sing the Aro/Ava for you.

vageyakara · Post by **vageyakara** » 11 Dec 2007, 12:15

Thank u vk ji, for referring me to Sishpriya.
With pleasure I give u the details
Karnaranjini SA RI GA MA GA PA DA NI DA SA: sA NI DA PA MA GA RI SA is the structure of this great ragam Please view and listen to the Link referred herein above.
As an old timer I am not conversant enough to upload my direct rendering .All my other renderings have been posted in to the Karnatik.com website Please give me your phone no. so that I can contact u and render whatever item you want me to sing for you.Please donot hesitate to contact me.I am always at the service of discerning CM devotees.
Thank u once again , VK ji
Ramaraj

vageyakara · Post by **vageyakara** » 11 Dec 2007, 12:42

Hallo VK'ji and syshpriya,
You have reminded me yet another friend"s querry about the difference between SalakaBhairavi and KarNaRanjini.
saalaka Bhairavi :SA R I GA MA PA DA SA; SA NI DA PA MA GA RI SA
vOW,
THE BEAUTY OF THE VAKRAPRAYOGAM

ie) GA MA GA PA DA NI DA SA , iT HAS ALTOGATHER TRANSFORMRD THE Karahapriya Janya Raga into yet another ALLURING BEAUTY
Jaya hO Carnatic Music ! aND HATS OFF TO HMB !WHO INVENTED THIS RAGA !

sindhu · Post by **sindhu** » 11 Dec 2007, 15:10

Ramraj Sir,

I think the aro/ava of Saalaga Bhairavi is : Sa Ri Ma Pa Da SA
SA Ni Da Pa Ma Ga Ri Sa - Janyam of 22nd MK.

( similar category of Saveri (15th MK janyam); Arabhi (29th MK janyam) }

Pl come back on this.

vageyakara · Post by **vageyakara** » 11 Dec 2007, 15:49

Hallo sindhu'ji
As per SSP what u say is correct,
where as per another version found in SANGEETHAS RAGA KADAL, BY sRI mahadevan it is SA RI GA MA PADA PA SA SA NI DA PA MA GA RI SA.
tHERE IS ANOTHER VERSION as per the same SSP, that Slaka Bhaivari is a derivative of (20)Nata Bhairavi
and Dr.MBK depicts as (20)Janyam with Sari ma pa da sa.
SA NI DA PA G A RI SA
WITH SUDHA DEIVATHAM
Above all there is another version by Mysore Rangiah, who depicts S.Bhairavi as Janya of (37) Salakam with
SA RI MA PA DA SA ;SA NI DA PA MA GA RI SA

aLL THE ABOVE ARE SUDHA SWARAMS JUSTR LIKE kanakaangi alternated with Prathi Madhyamam
But the practice in vogue is mostl y (22)janyam
Ramaraj Ref:Ragam Pravagam - by D.Pattammal.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 11 Dec 2007, 20:26

Perhaps this will help!
http://www.sendspace.com/file/le9qou

shishyapriya · Post by **shishyapriya** » 11 Dec 2007, 23:17

Friends - Thank so much. I can sing the song but then if I want to improvise I need the arohanam and avarohanam for it. So, I asked for it.

Ramraj sir - It was awesome. You have rendered very well.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 11 Dec 2007, 23:41

CML, that ' p d s' sounds much like Mohanam with that gamakam but in the song sung by Sri. Ramaraj I do not hear that.

vageyakara · Post by **vageyakara** » 12 Dec 2007, 07:37

Dear CML;ji and VK'ji
What VKji says is correct.Karnaranjani -ghandharam (sadharana) has no oscillation since it is used as an amsa swaram and not nyasasswaram just as in sahana.That is the reason why I choose to havethe Aroh : SA RI GA MA GA PA DA NI DA SA (OH !! WHAT A BEAUTY !!) iT NOT ONLY ADDS TO THE COLOR OF THE RAGAM BUT PRESENTS A DISTINCT IDENTITY.You may also note from my rendition, that I started the pallavi itself as NEEDAYA KORITI (nI da pa gA ri ri) NEERAJA LOCHANI (ri ga ma pa pa ma ma ga ga pa pa) and as a concluding Sangati (nI ri sa for NEERAJA as swaraksharam.Again
MATA ALARMELU MANGA (mA dA ) MANGA (ma gA).
and SWARAMANDU PALKINCUMU (sa ri ma ga pa da ni da (mAtA)
Ramaraj

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 12 Dec 2007, 20:18

Many thanks Ramaraj. I did not notice you had redefined the ArOhaNam. That is just fantastic and melodious. I was also wondering about the liberal use of nishaadam in your rendering and now it is explained. It also rids the mohanam hangover that VK has detected. If HMB were to be alive he will appreciate your refinement enthusiastically. You have indeed infused new life into
KarNa ranjanI
Shall we call it cool karNaranjini in honour of our dear colleague

vageyakara · Post by **vageyakara** » 12 Dec 2007, 20:29

Dear
CML guruji, Thank u very much for your profuse encomiums.It is in deed this kind of encouragement that keeps me alive to the musical expectations of my beloved RASIKA FORUM fraternity And it is my bounden duty to share whatever little knowledge I am supposedly having.And I repeat , most of my creations emerged out of sheer inspiration I drew from Gurus like you.
Ramaraj.

vageyakara · Post by **vageyakara** » 13 Dec 2007, 08:40

vasanthakokilam wrote:CML, that ' p d s' sounds much like Mohanam with that gamakam but in the song sung by Sri. Ramaraj I do not hear that.

Hallo V.K."ji JUDGEMENT REVRESED !!!
I have carefully listened to CML 's Aroh/avaro clip depicting KARNARANJINI. oNLY WHEN IT IS SUNG/PLAYED as pa da sa alone it may present a tinge of mohanam., whereas CML'ji has used the correct Ghandharam (i.e)sadharaNaghandharam.Whereas Mohanam has ANTARAGHANDHARAM .i HAVE inadvertently erred in my judgement in endorsing your earlier view.Hence I have toREVERSE it e with appo;logies to Sri.CML and excuse me for my AVASARA KUDUKKAI THANAM !!!
Any way oscillation of GA is not necessary.
rAMARAJ

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 13 Dec 2007, 10:50

Sri. Ramaraj: Understood fully. Thanks.