Lyrics request kriti

VK RAMAN · Post by **VK RAMAN** » 24 May 2008, 04:41

Can some one give the lyrics for Sri Matrubhutham of Dikshitar and Appan Avadaritha

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 24 May 2008, 06:52

shrI mAtrubhUtam can be found at medieval.org.

appan avataritta has been posted here:
http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2819

VK RAMAN · Post by **VK RAMAN** » 24 May 2008, 08:44

Thanks Lakshman Sir. I checked Medieval.org and I did not see any entry for Kanada Ragam or Shri mAtrubhUtam.

ragam-talam · Post by **ragam-talam** » 24 May 2008, 14:33

See here: http://www.medieval.org/music/world/car ... hutam.html

VK RAMAN · Post by **VK RAMAN** » 24 May 2008, 20:07

Thank you ragam-talam for taking the trouble to search this out for me in the same site my search failed.

rbsmtanjore · Post by **rbsmtanjore** » 24 May 2008, 20:23

can anybody tell who authored SRI CHAKRA RAJASIMHA...(MANIPRAVALAM)

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 24 May 2008, 20:31

The composer is Agastyar (not the ancient sage).

ragam-talam · Post by **ragam-talam** » 24 May 2008, 23:01

The composer's name is more accurately Agattiyanar.
See here: http://www.karnatik.com/co1009.shtml

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 25 May 2008, 00:14

Since tamizh did not originally have a letter for the 's' sound, I think words like agastiyar or agastiyanAr (both are the same, AFAIK) get morphed to 'agattiyar' or 'agattiyanAr'.

On a side note: I think we should not believe everything on karnatik.com unless we find independent confirmation from elsewhere (it really amazes me that people do not hold websites to the same rigor that they usually apply to information from someone in person - that adage, 'In God we trust, everyone else must show proof' is rather useful in any situation, I think!)

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 25 May 2008, 01:13

rshankar wrote:

Since tamizh did not originally have a letter for the 's' sound, I think words like agastiyar or agastiyanAr (both are the same,

Did early tamil have the S sound (as in kaSTam)?
How did they write such words without the S?-KaTTam?

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 25 May 2008, 02:56

Lji,

Yes, and ishTam became iTTam.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 25 May 2008, 02:58

Wonder how 'krishNa' was written.

Someone who knows tamizh script better than I do should be able to help.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 25 May 2008, 03:10

Sh sound is written with ஷ . It may not be part of the official tamil alphabet but I have seen this frequently used for Sh sound when it occurs in the middle of a word. ( I am now reminded of Ravi's experience with the madras university clerks on how to write his name

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Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 25 May 2008, 03:25

I guess any sa (as in samayam) and sha (as in shankar) sound was represented by the third character in the tamil alphabet list.
If the word stared with Sa (as in SaNmukhapriyA) they must have still used the third character. If it occured in the middle iof the word they may have used either D or T as needed.

ragam-talam · Post by **ragam-talam** » 25 May 2008, 18:27

rshankar wrote:it really amazes me that people do not hold websites to the same rigor that they usually apply to information from someone in person

Valid point. I provided the info based on my own assessment of how plausible it was. And it helps to disambiguate the composer from the ancient sage.

Yes, it's a good idea not to blindly believe internet info - and the advice applies to this forum also!

rbsmtanjore · Post by **rbsmtanjore** » 16 Sep 2008, 00:09

thank you lakshman vasantha kokoilam shankar and ragam talam
i am a music lover from tanjore i just accidentally had an encounter with this beautiful website
thanks once again

rbsmtanjore