raaga vibhas

KAUSHIK900505 · Post by **KAUSHIK900505** » 08 Dec 2008, 22:58

i would be grateful if any1 could explain me bout raaga vibhas and its charateristics..

kmrasika · Post by **kmrasika** » 09 Dec 2008, 09:12

I think this is closely related to the Southern bhUpALam. I think the last caraNam of svAti's ashTajAma rAgamALikA, "pannagEndra Shayana," was originally composed in this rAga and these days is rendered in bhUpALam.

hariharan · Post by **hariharan** » 09 Dec 2008, 20:14

The rag 'vibhas ' that you are referring, I think, is also known by name 'Bhibas ' and are one and the same. The rag Bhibas is a Hindusthani raga belonging to the 4th That (Bhairav). The 15th Mela Mayamalavagoula of CM is the ewuivalent to the Bhairav That of HM. The Carnatic rags Bowli, Revagupthi sound similar to the rag Bhibas. The notes are;
Arohanam: SRGPDPS Avarohanam : SDPGPDPGRS. The note Dha is the vadi swara and Ga is the samavadi note of the rag Bhibas.

This is a early morning raga and invokes bhakti rasa. There is a rag named 'Bhibhasu' in CM of the 15th mela which uses the note Ma in the avarohanam instead of Ga . MS Subhalakshmi had chanted Hanuman Chalisa starting with this rag Bhibas.

Please do correct me or add more to this thread. Thank you

Radhe Krishna
Hariharan.

VK RAMAN · Post by **VK RAMAN** » 09 Dec 2008, 20:38

Hariharan: I like the way you explain and even a child can learn from it. Thanks for being there to give such lucid and easy to learn explanation.

KAUSHIK900505 · Post by **KAUSHIK900505** » 09 Dec 2008, 23:17

thank u very much.....i had this doubt coz i m learning hindustani flute and my sir started with this recently..but the way he gave the arohana and avarohana is...
arohana:srgpds
avarohana:sdpgrs
does this make any difference from the arohana and avarohana which u gave??

thank u
kaushik.s

keerthi · Post by **keerthi** » 10 Dec 2008, 13:32

Raag bibhaas is well demonstrated in the song 'Saanjh dhale gagan tale' from the film Utsav starring Rekha and Shekhar suman. It was based on the sanskrit play - Mrcchakatikam -The clay cart.
The song used both the Dhaivathas - Shuddha and chatusruthi, though I am not sure if that is BIBHAAS

hariharan · Post by **hariharan** » 10 Dec 2008, 19:39

Please go to the following link and know about the Hindusthani ragas and its equivalant ragas of Carnatic music. The link is;
http://www.asavari.org/ragamala.html#Iman
The rag Bhibhas(bhibash) is mentioned in this link as a janya of Kalyan -That, which is, according to me is incorrect, as Ri and Dha are komal swaras for the rag Bhibas, whereas these notes are Tivra swaras for Kalyan - That.

Rag Bauli of CM uses the additional note Kakali Nishadam in the avarohana only. Rag Bhupalam and rag Revagupti have the same arohana avarohana pattern of swaras except the Gandhara swara. Bhupalam sports Sadarana Gandaram, whereas it is Antara Gandharam for Revagupti.

Bhupalam is said to be the janya of 8th Mela(H.Thodi) and Revagupti and bouli ragas are said to be the janya of the 15th Mela. Hence the rag Revagupti has more similarity to the rag Bhibas. Bhupalam raga using the Antara gandharam note is also in practice.

The arohana Avarohana notes posted by me for the rag Bhibas are quoted from the book titled 'Hindusthani Sangeeth' written by Sri. M.O. Srinivasan, copies of which are available with The Karnatic Music Book Centre, Royapettah, Chennai-14. Probably some one with better knowledge and exposure in Hindusthani music can explain your doubts.

Radhekrishna
Hariharan.