Most popular ragas ?

bob denard · Post by **bob denard** » 20 Aug 2006, 21:01

Hello all,
Again a novice question : what would you say are the most popular or common ragas ? Are they shared by North and South India music ? And is this preference equivalent in classical music or lighter stuff ?
Thanks...

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 20 Aug 2006, 21:44

By 'popular' if you mean 'immediately attractive so it appeals to a wider mass of people including those who do not listen to classical music' then in the South Indian terminology it will be 'Sivaranjani' and 'sindhubhairavi'.

bob denard · Post by **bob denard** » 20 Aug 2006, 22:05

Thanks, but i rather meant the ones most in use, in classical tradition that would mean the ones that were predominantly recorded, the ones that every artist has to performed at some time in their career, if there is such a thing..

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 20 Aug 2006, 22:10

this is an interesting question but eay to solve in hindusthani
i am studying my collection of over 30 years -including commercial album, radio programs and concerts.
should be able to get some idea in a couple of days.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 20 Aug 2006, 22:11

Here is a statistically significant study of carnatic music on this topic: http://www.depauw.edu/library/musiclib/ ... ations.asp

bob denard · Post by **bob denard** » 01 Sep 2006, 03:41

coolkarni wrote:this is an interesting question but eay to solve in hindusthani
i am studying my collection of over 30 years -including commercial album, radio programs and concerts.
should be able to get some idea in a couple of days.

Hi Coolkarni,
Have you come up with some kind of answer to this question ? Even just your most basic conclusion would be of great help...
Thanks !
Bob

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 01 Sep 2006, 16:52

I wrote a short article a couple of years ago for a Tyagaraja festival souuvenir.
Your download link is: http://www.matrixupload.com/download.php?file=1732dd7a

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 01 Sep 2006, 19:37

http://rapidshare.de/files/31567743/raga_details.xls

Here is an excel worksheet which analyses the number of times a raga appears in the music collection.
A few points to be noted about the collection , though.
1.Covers most of the commercial albums avaialble in the Indian market.
2.Has a high content of ALL India Radio recordings
3.Has a very low content of Live Concert recordings ( though the commercial albums have a good sprinkling of live concerts excerpts)
4.ragas like Piloo,kafi,sindhu bhairavi, Dhuns, bhajans ,thumris Misra ragas , ragamalikas have been excluded.
The top ones are
yaman (87) darbari(80) Puriya(78)malkauns(77)Bhairavi(65)marwa (44)bagesree(44)Behag(43)Kedar(38)Miya Malhar(36) Hamsadhwani(35)Desh(32)
Jaijaiwanthi(30)Bhimpalas(26)Abhogi(25)...

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 01 Sep 2006, 21:14

Lji,
Thanks for posting the article. Enjoyed reading it...

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 01 Sep 2006, 21:16

Coolji,
There is a problem downloading your fare...

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 01 Sep 2006, 21:48

arasi
it has been downloaded 4 times already.and even i tried and got it.
wonder what is the problem ?

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 01 Sep 2006, 21:54

Cool vyakti,
I tried again. No luck. I will give it some time and try downloading again. Thanks.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 01 Sep 2006, 21:58

arasi
there is no timelag for this. The moment you click, it comes up with a code that you have to enter in the box beside it and then click again. It works fine. I just tried.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 01 Sep 2006, 23:28

Coolji,
Got it!

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 01 Sep 2006, 23:31

DRS,
Thanks for your guidance. The reason I couldn't download it was because I do not have EXCEL (now, don't laugh or grimace). My mate got it for me with his computer...

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 01 Sep 2006, 23:36

arasi
No Im not laughing at all. Even without Excel you should have no problems downloading it but only with opening it. I had the same problem before. Anyway you have downloaded it which is good. If you have problems viewing it, click on this link here and download "Excel viewer" and install it. Then you will have no problems.

Click here for Excel Viewer

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 02 Sep 2006, 01:54

Excellent data Kji. Thanks.

Just bringing attention to those who are not familiar with excel.. at the bottom of the Excel worksheet, there are multiple work sheets, presented as tabs: They are named 10-87 times, 4-9 times, 1-3 times.

It is interesting that HM gives more prominence to prati-madhyama ( tIvra Ma ) ragas compared to CM. I am making this observation by comparing Kji's list on the HM side with the Lji article and the statistical study at http://www.depauw.edu/library/musiclib/ ... ations.asp on the CM side ( all three approch this from different angles so any observation has to be taken with a pinch of salt ).

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 03 Sep 2006, 01:08

DRS, VK,
It is a joy when keen intellects have such keenness in helping out. nAnEke baDavaLu...

bob denard · Post by **bob denard** » 04 Sep 2006, 01:16

Fantastic Coolkarni, that's the most thorough answer i could get.. you must have a pretty impressive record collection to be able to collect such an amount of data.. and some patience too !! Cheers..

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 04 Sep 2006, 03:03

Patience his sterling quality--among other assets...

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 04 Sep 2006, 12:47

pretty impressive record collection

a collection which features ONLY 4 MINUTES OF KHARAHARPRIYA BY GNB cannot be quite impressive

STRANGE BUT TRUE.I have never found any kharaharapriya by GNB
http://rapidshare.de/files/31891208/38- ... A.MP3.html

Meena
this link is for you too..

meena · Post by **meena** » 04 Sep 2006, 13:08

kji
geee thanku so much, for waving that magic wand of urs. Much appreciate it

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 04 Sep 2006, 14:26

coolkarni wrote:a collection which features ONLY 4 MINUTES OF KHARAHARPRIYA BY GNB cannot be quite impressive
STRANGE BUT TRUE.I have never found any kharaharapriya by GNB
http://rapidshare.de/files/31891208/38- ... A.MP3.html

The author of this article ( from sangeetham.com ) also wonders about GNB and Kharaharapriya.

http://web.archive.org/web/199905080048 ... b/gnb2.htm

baboosh · Post by **baboosh** » 05 Sep 2006, 10:17

Have you ever heard any Dikshitar kriti in Kharaharapriya?If so let me know.

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 05 Sep 2006, 10:32

MD hasnt composed any pieces in khpriya.