Rasikapriya 2011 awards announcement

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cmlover
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Yes PB!
மெம்பர்தம் பெருமை கூறவும் எளிதோ!
(it is impossible to laud the creativity of our membership!)

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We are our own reward, seems to be Arasi's contention.

I am reminded of this subhasita:

hastasya bhūśaṇam dānam satyam karṇasya bhūśaṇam
stotrasya bhūśaṇam śāstram bhūśaṇaihi kim prayojanam

Charity is the ornament for hands.
Truth is the ornament for speech.
Hearing the scriptures is the ornament for ears.
Where is the need for other ornaments?

My paraphrase: Rasikasya bhushanam rasikaanaam

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An award here, an award there
As a reward for what one does
A 'rasika' of the rasikas.org
To none of these
He/She looks forward
For him, For her
Just being a part of
Rasikas.org is a great reward
He/She always looks forward
To a review of a concert heard
To the meaning of a song word to word
To savour the mesmerising music
Of the masters past and present
To share and learn, to rejoice hand in hand
When one from here wins an award
Yes, being a rasikas.org member
Is by itself a reward and award. :clap:

cmlover
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Good Punarvasu! Your Muse has been stirred.
Arasi won't be far behind!
Also waiting for the 'pugazh maalai' (in rhythmic verse) from our PB, the poet supreme!

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pugazh mAlai avar (PB) toDukka
pA mAlai ivar (Punarvasu and Arasi) toDukka
vAzh nAL naDandadaiyyA naTarAjarE....
(the original went, pAmAlai avar paDikka, pU mAlai nAn toDukka....)

cmlover
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What movie that original song was from Shankar?

vasanthakokilam
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Ravi: Nice :)

cmlover
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Rasikapriyam RamakriShnam varam
Rasika sangha sthApakam tat rAginam
Pavitra jAyA ArAdhitam bhAShA shAstra pravINam
vara VaidyanAthapriyam vArdhUla gOtrodbhavam
manorathAya AshamsE kim na jIvati ciram ||

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cml, nice blessings for srkris.

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cmlover wrote:Rasikapriyam RamakriShnam varam
Rasika sangha sthApakam tat rAginam
Pavitra jAyA ArAdhitam bhAShA shAstra pravINam
vara VaidyanAthapriyam vArdhUla gOtrodbhavam
manorathAya AshamsE kim na jIvati ciram ||
As Semmangudi mama would say (after a vigorous nod of the head), "Aaha, bhalE bhalE"!

Well, actually he would say "bhale da, bhale da", but I am far too young to be saying that sort of thing to cml. :)

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Good one, CML. When I first read the lyrics, the song that immediately came to my mind is TNS singing Giripriyam (Kadanakuthoohalam, Harikeshanallur-Muttayya-Bhagavatar ). Here is a you tube link ( not TNS ): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc2P82jOKxY

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CML,
BhalE! Let alone young vijayR, even I can't say DA to you--only aDaDA!

VK,
ghana kuthUhalamAna vishayam sung in katanakuthUhalam sounds just right ;)

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Thanks folks
It is spooky VK guessed kadanakuthoohalam which was exactly in my mind when I was composing. I tried to sing it but my voice is failing due to age!
Actually most of our membership don't know how young our srkris is!
He has a long way to go to reach my plateau, but then he is sure to reach far beyond carrying the sweet burden of this Forum.
His name is already etched in golden letters in the History of CM!

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Credit is due where it is due--when it is long due.
Mature years don't mean we all become ripe in our wisdom.
At least, we seem to have the sense to appreciate maturity in the young ones.
You captured Ramakrishnan's qualities in these lines. My favorites: vara vaidyanAtha priyam and bhAshA shAstra pravINam.
I need some explanation on the words where Pavithra comes in--the most essential part of the verse where I want to understand it more than I do now... ;)

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Arasi: You are the kuthUhalam starter indeed, with the first poem on this matter.

CML, that is synchronicity indeed. Here is how it transpired in my head. Immediately after seeing the words of your poem, a song played in my head. I knew it is TNS but I did not know exactly what the song and raga were. I was "audiating" a melody in an abstract form. The only thing beyond that is the melody started on a high swara and it came down from there as an avarOhaNa prayOgA. I think the first word ending in priyam is the tigger. It was bugging me the whole day that I could not remember the song.

Then I decided to search for some terms which will jog my memory. Your poem sounded like MD's so I thought I will check any MD song that has the word 'priyam'. Saw the masterpiece kAdambaripriyAyai ( mohanam ), not the song in my head. That is an out-of-this-world masterpiece indeed, so half an hour of Sunday well spent. I even tried to fit your lyrics to that. It was fun but that is one heck of a tough song.

But that was not the song in my head. Then things quickly collapsed ( in a good way ) to the final resolution. First, the word 'guru priyam' occured in my mind immediately followed by 'giri priyam' and then the 'a ha' moment. I then knew that song I was abstractly audiating, including the raga and the full concrete melody of the first line. There was no need after that to search and listen to anything to confirm. It is great that immersing yourself consciously in something related makes the brain remember by making connections and things.

Nick H
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Is the meet with our award-winning leader :D still on next weekend?

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arasi
I did not attempt a translation since the verse is quite simple.
But there are hidden elements of beauty.
Pavitra jAyA ArAdhitam has the obvious meaning worshipped/revered by wife Pavithra;
the hidden meaning is appreciated/venerated (ArAdhitam) by the noble/pure-born (pavitrajA)
Again vara VaidyanAthapriyam has the obvious meaning one whose favourite is CVB;
the benedictoty hidden meanng is that he is blessed/favourite of Lord Parameshvara (vaidyanAtha)...

VK
you have beautifully captured the mental process of identifying (forgotten) passages through linking
bits and pieces and above all using the computer.
When I hear a favourite tune my mind races (it has slowed considerably these days :( ) to identify the raga.
I first cast it into a crude swara pattern (I am no expert like Arun!) which I try to elaborate using the observed note pattern. In that process suddenly a line of lyric flashes in memory, but I still have to place it in a known song. Sometimes I search the lyrics databases to recover the song and hence the raga name. But they are not always useful since the lyrics databases are very inadequate but for well-known vaggeyakaras.. I let go and try after a couple of days, but my subconscious still works on it in the background. Most of the time the song flashes or a related song jumps up and the problem is solved. It is sheer bliss once I figure it out and then I can enjoy the new song (usually a film song (never by ARR :D ) along with my old favourite..

Now explain 'synchronicity' for me!

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CML, thanks. You embarrass me, I am not used to such hyperboles.

But if it makes you all compose such fine poetry, it's worth getting embarrassed for.

Nick, sure would like to meet all of you who would prefer to turn up.

VK, good guess

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srkris,
I said 'long due'...

CML,
For a laywoman, it's all a matter of associative memory, sprouting from the subconscious.
I did see the double meaning in VaidyanAtha...
As for Pavithra,I was hoping that your interpretation was going to include 'a mutual appreciation', may be not to the extent of veneration ;)

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Arasi, you are too kind.

She respects me as much as I, her. Let's pass the veneration part off as poetic licence.

Another minor point with CML's composition, is I belong to the Bharadwaja and not the Vardhula gotra described.

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I am awaiting the arrival of the ardhangini (better half :D )at the forum.
I trust Rajesh will video the debut at the Rasika Meet for us...

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>Now explain 'synchronicity' for me!

Well, not much more than what is commonly understood as an English word that both of us were thinking the same thing. But give it to wikipedia to collect on the relevant technical and sophisticated sounding blabber into an article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity It seems to be more from your field.

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>She respects me as much as I, her.

Good one. This has the quality of saying nothing and at the same time saying everything.

Note to self: File it away for future use ;)

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I thought someting like
The 7 Secrets of Synchronicity: Your Guide to Finding Meaning in Signs Big and Small [Hardcover]
Trish MacGregor
Trish MacGregor (Author)
Have not bought the book, but curious! Still interested in the esoteric!

cmlover
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What if she respects you more than you do :D
By the by how can you measure 'respect'?

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'respect' need only be characterized as a dynamic equilibrium developing over time. Now that is the answer to the ultimate question of life, universe and everything and not 42!! ;)

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Stable equilibrium I hope :D

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Respect

Immeasurable it is, agreed--yet
Is measured out in scoops,
In actions small and great
Generated by thoughtfulness

As grains of sand, even
an entire seashore--
Respect, apt part of loving
Lives In little things, big deeds
It shows up, shining light
On the path the pair walk

If I go on any more,
I would sound like a
Hallmark card? Ugh!

VK,
subhAshitams are not for filing away ;)

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equilibrium of all types is stable only when there is a carrot and a stick on both sides :)

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ரசிகாஸ் - புகழ் மாலை!

விரிந்திருக்கும் உலகினிலே பரந்திருக்கும் ரசிகர்
உரிமையுடன் குரல் கொடுப்பர்; பரிவுடனே கரம் கொடுப்பர்.
தெரியாத பாடல்களைத் துரிதமுடன் தந்திடுவர்;
சரியான நுணுக்கங்களைச் சலிக்காது அளித்திடுவர்.
சிரித்திருக்க நினைவுகளைச் சித்திரமாய்த் தீட்டிடுவர்;
அரிதான படங்களையும் அழகுடனே அளித்திடுவர்.
பரிவுடனே விமரிசித்துக் கலைஞர்களை ஊக்குவிப்பர் - எனவே
பெரியவரே அனைவருமே! பல்லாண்டு கூறுவோம்! - நம்
பெருந்தலைவர் நமக்காகப் பரிசுதனை ஏற்றிடுவார் - மேலும்
பெருமைபல அவர் அடைய மனதார வாழ்த்திடுவோம்!

ப்ரத்யக்ஷம் பாலா,
08.11.2011

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arasi
nice quotable quote!
Respect is measurable and yet immeasurable..
That reminds of Nasadiya suktam - a favourite of srkris..

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புகழ்மாலை பயந்த PB sir!
நன்றி
பெருமையுடன் அணிகிறோம்!

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malar mAlai aNivIIr, aNivippIr--
pugazh mAlai SUTTiya kavikkum
kanivAi avar Sonna mozhikkum
Or maNam kavazh mAlaiyE--

SAlvai onRu maTTum vENDAmE!

Nick H
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Stable equilibrium is for horses!

(whereas carrots and sticks apply to donkeys...)

cmlover
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:D
Incidentally horses embrace mares :D
Donkeys are musical experts especially in Gandharam!

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Saw this thread just now. Possibly, I am too late.
Yet, my hearty congratulations to Dr. Vijayagopal and S Ramakrishnan.

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